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Truth is I shoot mostly .458 Win since it's cheaper than Lott and the power thing as far as I am concerned is fine with the Original .458 Win around 1900 fps at the muzzle for the 510 gr. The Lott does on paper more than it does in the field. It brings the 2K fps barrier behind the actual speed of the Lott 510 gr.

Accuracy wise they are the same for me. I get under 2" at 100 yards as a normal with frequent 1.5" groups ctc.

There is a load in the .458 Lott/Win that used to be available by Federal. It was a 350 gr soft point going over 2400 fps and boy was it accurate and it made a LOT of noise louder than the 510gr loads of either Lott or Win.

Comparing the recoil of the Lott in the Number One with another Ruger, the Ruger Safari with Circassian wood that used to be offered back in the 2000s, is more natural and manageable. The bolt action recoil of the Safari Ruger is harder to my feel. I have owned .458 Lott in CZ 550 and the .458 Win in the 70 Win, 700 Rem and the CZ 550 and in every case the recoil of the Number One is my preference.

I have since taken off the 2X Burris and used just the iron sights finding I can shoot just as well with them to 100 yards.

Once you have reached the Lott or the .458 Win there is no rifle or any other caliber that can frighten you with either noise or recoil. Your shooting actually improves when you practice with the heavies. The Number One makes you think ONE shot. Make it good. It always does.
 

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Yikes!
 

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Like the Montana sling. I have them on my V and RSI.
Yours is the first I've seen on a No 1 with a barrel sling stud. Nice.
 

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Another fine example of the #1.
 

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Favorite quote referring to .458 Lott: "It's unpleasant, just like the man who made it." Apparently Jaques P. Lott wasn't always the nicest man to be around. There was a good article in the American Rifleman a couple of years ago that included hunting in Africa with a rifle (Kimber?) chambered in .458 Lott.
 

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I really want to shoot something in .458 Lott. I THINK I want to own something in that caliber but I need to take a shot first.
 

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You know when they go off. I sold mine a couple years ago as I now think I am not going to Africa or Alaska to hunt. I still have a 375H&H which also lets you know whan it goes off.
 

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Greetings, as I'm new to the Forum and Pleased to have come across the site. I am actually looking vigilantly, along with distributors for a Blued 458 Lott. I Purchased the M77 MKII in 458 lott instead, as a decade ago there were 3 available to choose from. I've been running it through its paces lately, practicing accuracy, training to undermind the Focus of Recoil. The Rifle is mint & a Choice piece of Walnut, but it is a raucous. Wearing a backpack strap helps, but its shot kneeling, squeeze perceiving it's a 30-06 to train the brain has become a success? … Anyone within miles radius here in Upper Michigan has to wonder "What in Gods name was That" ... Great Round. Would love to find it in a No.1
 

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458 Lott Ammunition question? … May not be the right place, any help appreciated.

Hornady's 500 grn. $100 apx
Nosler's & Federal Cape Shock $200 apx

Regardless of Monolithic Solids, Softpoint, etc … Can anyone shed light on why such a price discrepancy between Manufactures.?

Addl: Regarding recoil. Has anyone shot DT's 300 grn's at 7300 ft/lbs? As there's 700 grn ammo available at 13, 1400 fps. Bottom Line, Is the ft/lbs that creates the Recoil?

Thank You?
 

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well, low volume production tends to make the production expensive. but i can't figure for the life of me why the safari calibers are so much more expensive than other calibers. i understand the volume for a manufacturer is low, but i don't think the component cost for them is more than perhaps 3x the component cost of their high volume runners. so why is safari ammo not just 3x more than the high volume ammo but 5x to 6x more??? beats me. i guess that just must be what the market will bear.

i would say, in the safari calibers for sure, it pays big time to reload.....

-tdbru
 

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458 Lott

I am actually looking for someone to help me with building (sort of) a #1 in 458 Lott. It doesn't need to be very fancy but I do have some specific wants like barrel length, break, and trigger. I want some hard medicine for the pigs and black bears, and the occasional demonic fox squirrel. I am in the process now of acquiring a used #1 (I have never owned one) and I know very little about them although I have experience with bolts and semi's. Anyone have any advice on what I should/should not look for or a good smith to assist me with this? I live in SE North Carolina BTW.
 

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I am actually looking for someone to help me with building (sort of) a #1 in 458 Lott. It doesn't need to be very fancy but I do have some specific wants like barrel length, break, and trigger. I want some hard medicine for the pigs and black bears, and the occasional demonic fox squirrel. I am in the process now of acquiring a used #1 (I have never owned one) and I know very little about them although I have experience with bolts and semi's. Anyone have any advice on what I should/should not look for or a good smith to assist me with this? I live in SE North Carolina BTW.
I would suggest Mark Penrod of Penrod Precision. He did my custom #1 and is considered by many (probably all people like me who have given him money and been happy with the results) as the top #1 gunsmith. He is in North Manchester Indiana, but if you are looking at having something worked on by a "specialist" you probably already factored in having to mail it out. I would suggest giving him a call and seeing what he can do for you.

https://penrod-precision.hub.biz/
 

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Great, Thanks for the assistance.
 
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