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Has anyone used this powder for hunting loads in a 45 Colt? nI normally use IMR 4227 in my hunting loads and have no complaints, just curious how this new powder stacks up!!
 

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Haven't used it because I'm not a big fan of extruded flake powders. Have you ever considered Ramshot Enforcer. It's a fine grained spherical that meters like a dream. It will get you as much velocity as H110/W296, but with less muzzleblast. Ramshot has high pressure TC/Ruger only handload data for Enforcer in .45 Colt. ;)
 

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Haven't used it because I'm not a big fan of extruded flake powders. Have you ever considered Ramshot Enforcer. It's a fine grained spherical that meters like a dream. It will get you as much velocity as H110/W296, but with less muzzleblast. Ramshot has high pressure TC/Ruger only handload data for Enforcer in .45 Colt. ;)
Have you seen MP300? It isn't flake powder like say Unique it's spherical and meters very nicely. Performs well in .357 in both handgun and rifle.
 

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No, I haven't actually seen it but all of Alliant's powders are extruded flake unless MP 300 is the exception and flattened ball (spherical). ;)
 

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I'm curious too. I have read on other forums that folks say it doesn't stack up to what they claim, but I do have a pound of it. I hear it's somewhere in between H110/W296 and Lil'Gun in burn rate, but that's just hearsay.

I will load some up in the .357, .45 Colt and .454 and post the results when I do.
 

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No, I haven't actually seen it but all of Alliant's powders are extruded flake unless MP 300 is the exception and flattened ball (spherical). ;)
2400 isn't and MP300 isn't they are in fact spherical.
 

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2400 isn't and MP300 isn't they are in fact spherical.
Well, I don't mean to argue but if you check with Alliant they will tell you that 2400 is extruded flake. It's just smaller in size. The only US manufacturer of ball (spherical) powders is St. Marks in Florida who make Ramshot Competition, Silhouette. All of the Winchester and Hodgdon ball powders. Manufacturing differences being what they are it is very doubtful that MP 300 is spherical unless it is imported. ;)
 

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WHy does Alliant call 300 spherical?
"Power Pro™ 300-MP (Magnum Pistol)

Smokeless spherical magnum pistol powder
•Improved velocity and density for more efficient metering and loading
•Maximum velocity and performance in magnum handguns
•Enables reloaders to duplicate certain factory loaded ammunition"
 

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Good question. Maybe it really is spherical. 2400 however is not. If 300 MP is spherical it's very doubtful that Alliant makes it themselves. Could be coming from St. Marks, or more than likely it is imported like the Reloader series of powders that come from Sweden with some of them manufactured by Norma. I will go to the Alliant website and check it out. ;)
 

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Just got back from Alliant. They do indeed say that 300 MP is a SPHERICAL powder. Norma R123 Magnum handgun powder is no longer imported into the US last I heard so it could be that Alliant is selling the Norma R123 powder or a close derivative of it made by Norma. The Norma R123 powder was excellent but kinda expensive. ;)
 

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Just got back from Alliant. They do indeed say that 300 MP is a SPHERICAL powder. Norma R123 Magnum handgun powder is no longer imported into the US last I heard so it could be that Alliant is selling the Norma R123 powder or a close derivative of it made by Norma. The Norma R123 powder was excellent but kinda expensive. ;)
So your point was "it isn't Alliant's powder because it's spherical" or was it the original intent "It's Alliant, it can't be shperical"? And of course they say it's spherical I quoted that in my last post. I'm not clear of your intent. Is it you don't like Alliant or you just want to prove someone wrong on the net?
 

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Back on point. I would say try the 300MP it seems to works well for me. I'll give it the speed test when my Chrony arrives this week. Accuracy is certainly there w 125gr as it is w 158gr bullets. I'm going to the farm next week and will try some distance shots out of the wheelgun and the '92.
 

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So...

I would like to try it in a 45 Colt but no Load Data...

I use in in the 480R and it works great...

BUT

I have not cronoed the load yet.

Snake
 

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So your point was "it isn't Alliant's powder because it's spherical" or was it the original intent "It's Alliant, it can't be shperical"? And of course they say it's spherical I quoted that in my last post. I'm not clear of your intent. Is it you don't like Alliant or you just want to prove someone wrong on the net?
No need to get testy now. Just needed to confirm for myself since you also stated that 2400 is a flattened ball (spherical) powder. I started reloading in 1986 with Blue Dot. I am very familiar with Alliant and how they make powder. Manufacturing ball powder would require a completely different manufacturing process and facility as well. Alliant has a working relationship with Norma of Sweden so I'm simply curious if Norma is the source for 300 MP. Alliant's rifle powders are all imports. Norma R123 was an excellent magnum handgun powder when it was available in the US and if 300 MP is anything like it, Alliant will have success with 300 MP.

I prefer ball or flattened ball powders for reloading handgun rounds because they are finer, denser and meter better. This can contribute to more consistent loads overall compared to extruded flake powders, but that's just my opinion. Nothing against imported powders either. I have used a lot of Vihta Vouri powders in the past and the Ramshot Enforcer that I now use for magnum revolver loads comes from Belgium. ;)
 

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Very?.............................
 
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