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Anyone carrying a little heavier today?

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Without straying too far into politics.... looks like a bank came down... and then another... and maybe more to come?

I'm a panicky, tin-foil hat wearer. I was at the grocery store getting more rice, beans, dehydrated milk, flour and sugar yesterday. Grabbed another box of mountain house dehydrated meals, too. Pulled a sizable amount of fiat currency out of my bank (not just coins, had enough in there to get a real deal paper bill!) ... ya know, just in case.

Going to work today with the P365 and a couple spare mags. I guess bank failures aren't the sort of thing that rile up the 'mostly peaceful protest' crowd... but if those EBT cards get declined there will be pandemonium!

DOW is actually up at this point... so I guess I'm a fool.


Anyways... did anyone else today feel like having a little more firepower on hand?

Going to a micro-9mm isn't exactly "serious firepower" but it's a heckuva step up from the single stack 32 I usually carry.
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Wanna-be supposed natsi sympathizer, if that, had rants on Russia site that nobody interacted with him! A loser. Thought of moving to Mexico. Loved the shoot up of the Christian school and knew he was whacked.


Actually a bit different lately, I weigh around 250, but then again, I'm almost 72 soon.
I've never encountered any Nazis yet. But my Father did, a lot of them back in 1944/45.
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Wanna-be supposed natsi sympathizer, if that, had rants on Russia site that nobody interacted with him! A loser. Thought of moving to Mexico. Loved the shoot up of the Christian school and knew he was whacked.


A Hispanic Neo-Nazi?
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A Hispanic Neo-Nazis
After/end of war (WWII) many Nazi's escaped to those areas and around there. Regroup/rebuild ? Hitler's body was never actually found, it had been burned. Russia took the remains and "we" (supposedly) were never aloud to examine them for any identity check for our proof. It's a giant theory all it's own with people still tracking and finding all kinds of things along the trail.
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After/end of war (WWII) many Nazi's escaped to those areas and around there. Regroup/rebuild ? Hitler's body was never actually found, it had been burned. Russia took the remains and "we" (supposedly) were never aloud to examine them for any identity check for our proof. It's a giant theory all it's own with people still tracking and finding all kinds of things along the trail.
My suspicions about accusations of the shooter being a Neo-Nazi have to do with the regime's efforts to paint a narrative that Neo-Nazis and white supremacists are lurking around every corner in order to further stir the cauldron of racial animus.

When the news talks about a shooter potentially being some sort of "Alt-Right extremist," my antenna pops up.
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Exactly. They have to get everyone sufficiently afraid of "terrorists" that they'll want everyone disarmed to keep the terrorists disarmed--like that has ever worked anywhere in the world.
News this morning said "he had been in Basic Training 3 (THREE ?) months. Discharged due to mental and "other" issues. AND had spent over $3200. on weapons and gear. ??? Like it was A LOT OF MONEY !!! media sure beats that dead horse. further proof they don't have a clue what they're yackin' about.
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Wanna-be supposed natsi sympathizer, if that, had rants on Russia site that nobody interacted with him! A loser. Thought of moving to Mexico. Loved the shoot up of the Christian school and knew he was whacked.


Wonder if he had actual "Tats", photoshop photo's or decals (like the old Cracker Jack prizes).
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News this morning said "he had been in Basic Training 3 (THREE ?) months. Discharged due to mental and "other" issues. AND had spent over $3200. on weapons and gear. ??? Like it was A LOT OF MONEY !!! media sure beats that dead horse. further proof they don't have a clue what they're yackin' about.
Medical and behavioral chapter cases take longer than the training cycle to get released, so that three-month period makes sense. I remember our people who said they had a medical issue and thought that it would allow them to go home earlier when I was in Basic. They just ended up being the ones who did the crap jobs around the barracks and also had to be event support at the graduation ceremony. We all left after graduation, but they were still stuck there. The Army has to make sure that all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed before kicking them out. I'm sure that that guy was a royal PITA for his drill sergeants.

The $3200 figure is pretty unimpressive, for sure. I also saw an article that talked about "what was found under the search warrant." They found three boxes of ammo and some loose rounds, along with a sheath knife. The media would have a fit if they saw what real gun enthusiasts have.
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Medical and behavioral chapter cases take longer than the training cycle to get released, so that three-month period makes sense. I remember our people who said they had a medical issue and thought that it would allow them to go home earlier when I was in Basic. They just ended up being the ones who did the crap jobs around the barracks and also had to be event support at the graduation ceremony. We all left after graduation, but they were still stuck there. The Army has to make sure that all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed before kicking them out. I'm sure that that guy was a royal PITA for his drill sergeants.

The $3200 figure is pretty unimpressive, for sure. I also saw an article that talked about "what was found under the search warrant." They found three boxes of ammo and some loose rounds, along with a sheath knife. The media would have a fit if they saw what real gun enthusiasts have.
My time is Basic, they were known as the "Sick, Lame and the Lazy". Depending on their "Medical Profile" restrictions (? no running, crawling, climbing, marching, bending, lifting, stooping, excessive standing...), but, they still trained with the Platoon (kinda). Even if they just had to sit and watch from the back of an open box 5/4 (ton & 1/4 Tactical Jeep pick-up), which was most of the time, even when we were marching anywhere. ALWAYS last in line for anything. NO BODY walked in the Company area, we ran EVERYWHERE and were restricted to the Company Area. Out of the Company Area, we marched as a group (or ran). End of Basic, we got orders for AIT (Advanced Individual Training). The SLLs got sent to Transfer/Holding for evaluation. Some were recycled to a new Basic training unit, those that didn't/couldn't pass the physical training at the end, had a choice of the "Fat Farm" (constant exercise and workouts), then repeat Basic again. The few beyond any real hope, were Discharged Under Honorable Conditions and rated as 4F (unsuitable for Military service). Disappointing, but they DID try. But, we were also mainly comprised of RA's (Enlisted Regular Army), Army Reserve, National Guard and a handful of Draftees. Their heads & hearts were in it, but their body wasn't. As for the actual nut jobs (crazy mental what evers), they were long gone AWOL, usually Draftees. "Our" Basic Training, was the beginning of the Be All You Can Be in the "NEW ACTION ARMY". Big change, Drill Sargent's could be verbally BRUTAL, MEAN as in totally ripping your Bunk and personal area apart, get right in your face. BUT, no longer physically body BRUTAL, total hands off. But, as we know, there were also other alternatives at hand. AIT. Was a walk in the park. Combat Engineer and the beginning of an adventure of a lifetime.

I haven't seen anything exact on what he had that would amount to $3200. yet. Stories keep changing. Tactical cloths (something cammo ?) Anything that goes bang (to the media) is an "assault" weapon. Scope means snipper. Mags are evil by color and size. "4" is a mass now.
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My time is Basic, they were known as the "Sick, Lame and the Lazy". Depending on their "Medical Profile" restrictions (? no running, crawling, climbing, marching, bending, lifting, stooping, excessive standing...), but, they still trained with the Platoon (kinda). Even if they just had to sit and watch from the back of an open box 5/4 (ton & 1/4 Tactical Jeep pick-up), which was most of the time, even when we were marching anywhere. ALWAYS last in line for anything. NO BODY walked in the Company area, we ran EVERYWHERE and were restricted to the Company Area. Out of the Company Area, we marched as a group (or ran). End of Basic, we got orders for AIT (Advanced Individual Training). The SLLs got sent to Transfer/Holding for evaluation. Some were recycled to a new Basic training unit, those that didn't/couldn't pass the physical training at the end, had a choice of the "Fat Farm" (constant exercise and workouts), then repeat Basic again. The few beyond any real hope, were Discharged Under Honorable Conditions and rated as 4F (unsuitable for Military service). Disappointing, but they DID try. But, we were also mainly comprised of RA's (Enlisted Regular Army), Army Reserve, National Guard and a handful of Draftees. Their heads & hearts were in it, but their body wasn't. As for the actual nut jobs (crazy mental what evers), they were long gone AWOL, usually Draftees. "Our" Basic Training, was the beginning of the Be All You Can Be in the "NEW ACTION ARMY". Big change, Drill Sargent's could be verbally BRUTAL, MEAN as in totally ripping your Bunk and personal area apart, get right in your face. BUT, no longer physically body BRUTAL, total hands off. But, as we know, there were also other alternatives at hand. AIT. Was a walk in the park. Combat Engineer and the beginning of an adventure of a lifetime.

I haven't seen anything exact on what he had that would amount to $3200. yet. Stories keep changing. Tactical cloths (something cammo ?) Anything that goes bang (to the media) is an "assault" weapon. Scope means snipper. Mags are evil by color and size. "4" is a mass now.
It sounds like Basic hadn't changed much between when you went through and when I did after the first Gulf War. They were still calling the profiles the sick, lame and lazy when I went through, too, but they were different from the chapter cases who were just waiting to get out because they didn't really want to go through with it after they got there.

Did you do your Basic at Ft. Leonard Wood? That's where I went, too. I later ended up back there for OBC and the Captain's Career Course many years later.
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It sounds like Basic hadn't changed much between when you went through and when I did after the first Gulf War. They were still calling the profiles the sick, lame and lazy when I went through, too, but they were different from the chapter cases who were just waiting to get out because they didn't really want to go through with it after they got there.

Did you do your Basic at Ft. Leonard Wood? That's where I went, too. I later ended up back there for OBC and the Captain's Career Course many years later.
I had good mentors growing up, Dads were (WWII Vets from all branches) heavily involved in the Boy Scouts back then, so we were like young soldiers in training. Boy Scout Camp was like a "miniature" Military Base. More lax, made if fun. Unknowingly, it was a heads up for what lied ahead. Graduated 69. Enlisted Jan. 70 ( beat the draft :)). Had to have Parents sign for me. Dad crapped, Mom freaked. I was off to Ft Des Moines for a couple days of pokin' prodding, tons of paperwork. Then on an Air Plane to Ft Lewis, Washington for Basic Training.

My biggest highlight of Basic came towards the end. We were issued our weapons, bayonet, TA 50 gear and trucked to the Main Gate for actual back-up Riot Duty. Protestors at the Main Gate. I got SPIT AT by Jane Fonda and called a WAR PIG !!!

AIT was Ft. Leonard Wood. (Ft Lost in the Woods :) ). Perfect Army sense. :) Right Way, Wrong Way and The ARMY WAY.
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Had to have Parents sign for me.
My folks had to sign off for me, too. I did the split-op program and went to Basic in the summer between my junior and senior years of high school. My brother, because of how his birthday fell, was still 17 when he graduated and had to get their signatures, too, but he was going active straight from high school. I had to do some paperwork to get switched from the Reserves to active after I finished AIT.
My biggest highlight of Basic came towards the end. We were issued our weapons, bayonet, TA 50 gear and trucked to the Main Gate for actual back-up Riot Duty. Protestors at the Main Gate. I got SPIT AT by Jane Fonda and called a WAR PIG !!!
As a trainee, anything seems like it's a big deal when there's even a hint of the real world with it. I had guard duty for a few hours one night at an ammo holding area or something along those lines. Another private and I just sat in a guard shack and watched nothing happen to some vehicles inside of a fenced area and did periodic foot patrols around the perimeter with a riot baton. As a private doing my first "real" mission (haha!), I envisioned Red Army Faction terrorists or something along those lines trying to infiltrate and the two of us privates having to use our newly acquired unarmed combat skills to fight them off. 🤣 🤣 🤣

Oh, the stuff that goes through a private's head. Knowing how privates think, having been one, made it really fun to run STX lanes when I was a brigade training officer years later. They want to play Soldier, and if you indulge their enthusiasm, they'll really put 110% into the training.
AIT was Ft. Leonard Wood. (Ft Lost in the Woods :) ). Perfect Army sense. :) Right Way, Wrong Way and The ARMY WAY.
We might very well have stayed in a couple of the same sets of barracks or used some of the same training areas there. All in all, it wasn't a bad area.
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Exactly correct. The only precious metal that matters in the event of societal collapse is lead. If you have enough all your needs can be met. Even better if you also have the ability to remanufacture more of it.
Lead will rule in the worst of times is another way of saying it. Thank you for this powerful insight. I have acquired the preciousnmetals but they are for longterm preservation of the wealth I struggled for and hope to pass on to my kids and grandkids. I believe the Bible even foretells of a time when even gold will be so worthless it will be dumped in the streets, but I don't know where it is, if at all. Yes, lead rules and it's wise to be able to make your own.
Detroit again. Gas station employee does not want customer to leave over a credit card issue. Locks door with couple others inside. Customer shoots them all.

Bold employee, not bright.


Although shaken, Shipp said he will come back to snap pictures at this location.
I hope he is smart enough to come armed the next time.
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Detroit again. Gas station employee does not want customer to leave over a credit card issue. Locks door with couple others inside. Customer shoots them all.

Bold employee, not bright.


I'm curious about the nature of the credit card debt. If it was for something in the store (more likely), then the clerk could have just refused to let the dude take the item for failure to pay and then sent him on his way. If the payment was for gas (less likely because who buys $3 in gas?), then how is it that the dude was able to pump gas before paying?

The clerk very needlessly exposed those customers to jeopardy. It would have been fine if he'd been alone and wanted to press the issue, but what he did was just reckless when there were two other customers in the store. Just stupid.
17 year old a week ago tried to steal a car in ST Paul MN. Home owner came out for a noise, ends up shot dead.

17 year old a week ago tried to steal a car in ST Paul MN. Home owner came out for a noise, ends up shot dead.


Very sad story...

... but also a poignant reminder that leaving the relative safety of your home to confront wrong-doers is a risky proposition.




Detroit again. Gas station employee does not want customer to leave over a credit card issue. Locks door with couple others inside. Customer shoots them all.

Bold employee, not bright.



Another reminder that your life isn't worth anything to some people. $3? THREE DOLLARS!

Of course it wasn't over 3 dollars... it was likely the fear of being apprehended by police while illegally in possession of a firearm.
17 year old a week ago tried to steal a car in ST Paul MN. Home owner came out for a noise, ends up shot dead.

St. Paul is another one of those defund the police cities...
Just stifle. This is a wind bag whose time has past. I did not comment on him from the Allen mall shooting. Police say stop interviewing him, he is making up things. Right out of the gate he said people died because of automatic weapons that should be banned.

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