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I have a .45 flat top stainless in NMBH. The barrel does not look real good to me. I have had other Ruger’s that look much better. Do you think this is worth a factory repair? See photos. The barrel has rings in it.
How does it shoot?
 

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I’m probably not such a great shot that it makes that much difference. You don’t need a micrometer to measure my groups. But I still want a good revolver.

But it does lead up and need cleaning. I’m getting into casting, and my goal is to find material combinations that don’t lead up very much.
 

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Contact Ruger, they will make it right. I wouldnt accept it and if it is leading up, then it is creating a problem.
 

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That's definitely a defective barrel. Send the gun back to the factory and have them install a new barrel.
 

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Thanks. I was not sure if I was being too picky. I don’t mind sending it back. What bugs me is that I have to remove the Bowen aftermarket rear sight, customized grips and BM base pin, and reinstall the originals. Life.
 

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Received my shipping label and RMA number today.

I think the carbon steel, blues firearms are better finished than the SS revolvers. Maybe it is the anticipated need for the final prep for blueing. But I end up removing over-polishing marks from SS guns, dished holes, etc.

SS barrels may be harder to machine, or it may just be chatter. But I assume Ruger starts with barrels drilled to just under lands diameter, then machines the rifling. In this case the drill cut a little too deep near the muzzle, and so the machine marks were not removed during rifling. I would pay for a new barrel if necessary.

My old 357 Vaquero, which was a range rental gun at my LGS, is better made than the new flattops, in that it has no glaring flaws. I would use it for a 44 spl build except that it shoots so well as a .38. Overbuilt as it is.
 

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Follow up

Received the .45 stainless flattop BH revolver back from Ruger. They replaced the barrel and it looks fine.

They also buffed the pistol again. I wish they had not - it took me hours to get the original over-buffed marks out when I bought it. This time they left the pins in when they buffed it. I had wrapped paper around a file and had carefully reduced the dished marks. Also, they buffed down the frame where it meets the ejector rod housing so the housing is now fairly proud. I am convinced Ruger takes more care with the blued guns than the stainless. My blued NMV is much better dressed out.

Second, the new front sight was pinned up in the air, literally above the base. Daylight under it. I replaced it with a .44 special sight which is shorter, but might match the Rough Country rear sight.

I am not a gunsmith but I like refinishing guns and can drill a sight pin hole. I think QC is slipping at Ruger. But they did fix the barrel. The CS is still good.

I will not buy another Ruger unless I can inspect it first. At least not a stainless one.


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Good to hear that they replaced the defective barrel. Sorry that they felt the need to 'improve' on the polishing you had already done.
I have to wonder if people buy Rugers (guns in general?) and just take them home unopened to put in a safe for 'someday'? So many 'glaring' errors appear to go past Quality Control that, if people were returning them all, would make it cost effective to catch a lot more of the mistakes. I am sure the accountants have crunched the numbers and figured out what return rate becomes less profitable but what about people like you and myself who will not buy a Ruger anymore unless we can inspect it first? That has to reduce buying (at least it has for me as several guns I have wanted were not in stock to inspect).

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The average person would probably feel that the uniform brushed finish was an improvement. But I would’ve been happy if they had fixed the overly proud ejector housing. My LGS told me that I just needed to get over it and buy a Freedom Arms revolver.


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Ruger will make that right their survice is top notch.


I think the ejector rod housing is within “spec”. They probably did not even notice it. Maybe the new barrel is larger diameter. But they left abrasive on the gun. And undercut the recoil shield when they polished it.

My criticisms are not really about Ruger. People criticize the the 3rd generation Colts too. We just live in a world where standards are measured in terms of accounting costs against benefits on a larger scale. The quality of one gun is inconsequential to the overall profit margin of a publicly traded company. And no single craftsman is responsible.

If I dwell on it, I will just become an angry old man. It will just be an interesting winter project to fix it.


Ejector rod housing.



Undercut recoil shield.


Replacement .44 spl sight. It’s about right for the bottomed out rear sight.



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Not to change the topic, but I am starting to learn to cast bullets (at 65 and retiring). My goal is to find a nice Keith 452424 WW bullet at about 260 gr and 850 fps that will match the Bowen sight and stick with it. Bought a pair of flattop NMBH in .44 and .45, two Bowen sights, two moulds, and have a plan. So I will follow up in a new post. Appreciate this site. Not much more to say. I apologize for sounding bitchin’. As I get older, I have to work at being grateful, and to appreciate the freedoms we have. :) I’m a lucky man with two Ruger flat tops and a pile of wheel weights. :)


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And finally,I just discovered that the forcing cone on the new barrel is not concentric. Nuts. I will check to see if the bore is off center or the cut is off center. I may just send it back again.


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Do you mean that the forcing cone is off center, or do you mean that the forcing cone is not round, as in egg shaped?
 

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It appears off center as one side is deeper than the opposite side. Not by a huge amount, but noticeable. It will always bug me. I would not keep the gun if it’s not fixed.

I should probably see if Ruger cares enough to fix it. I definitely need a bushing and reamer to fix this. First, I would want to check the barrel with a range rod.
 
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