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I'm sure this has been discussed somewhere, but does anyone know if there's a way to modify a 10/22 so that the bolt operates like a regular automatic? That is, hold open on the last round and close just by pushing a button or pulling it back and letting it go?

If there are such devices, how do they affect the rifle otherwise?
 

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No and Yes...

No last round hold open...

Yes there is a modification you can do to your bolt release to make it release by pulling back/letting go to release the bolt after it has been manually locked open...

You can modify your stock part...search Youtube for how-to...
Or buy a cheap aftermarket replacement... Volquartsen Automatic Bolt Release Ruger 10/22 Black

IMO...it is a very good thing to do/have...I did my own but it is somewhat time consuming and the aftermarket part is cheap...
 

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No and Yes...

No last round hold open...

Yes there is a modification you can do to your bolt release to make it release by pulling back/letting go to release the bolt after it has been manually locked open...

You can modify your stock part...search Youtube for how-to...
Or buy a cheap aftermarket replacement... Volquartsen Automatic Bolt Release Ruger 10/22 Black

IMO...it is a very good thing to do/have...I did my own but it is somewhat time consuming and the aftermarket part is cheap...
Thanks! I just ordered one! :D
 

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Item 1..You can modifie (or buy) the release ready to go..Item 2 On the hold back you can do it as well BUT you need different mags for you rifle as I understand it..Maybe there is a fix for stock mags and maybe someone will enlighten us here..

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There is a mod for last shot hold open. It requires modification of the factory style magazine. I dont know if it can be done to aftermarket magazines, or High Capacity factory mahgazines. A simple internet search will turn up the company that does it. The only thing the VQ release lever does is allow you to "one hand" close the bolt. You just pull back the bolt handle, and the bolt will close. You dont have to manipulate the bolt lock lever underneath the stock. This DOES NOT hold the bolt open on the last shot/empty magazine.
 

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There is a mod for last shot hold open. It requires modification of the factory style magazine. I dont know if it can be done to aftermarket magazines, or High Capacity factory mahgazines. A simple internet search will turn up the company that does it. The only thing the VQ release lever does is allow you to "one hand" close the bolt. You just pull back the bolt handle, and the bolt will close. You dont have to manipulate the bolt lock lever underneath the stock. This DOES NOT hold the bolt open on the last shot/empty magazine.
Thanks for the info. It would be great if it held back automatically, but if it works the way you described it, it's still a big improvement for me.
 

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I must be the only guy on the entire planet who has no trouble releasing the factory hold-open device. But I'd probably buy the aftermarket part anyway if I wasn't so lazy.
 

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I must be the only guy on the entire planet who has no trouble releasing the factory hold-open device. But I'd probably buy the aftermarket part anyway if I wasn't so lazy.
Once you get the hang of it then its easy.:) But I have modified a couple of mine.:D
 

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There is a mod for last shot hold open. It requires modification of the factory style magazine. I dont know if it can be done to aftermarket magazines, or High Capacity factory mahgazines. A simple internet search will turn up the company that does it. The only thing the VQ release lever does is allow you to "one hand" close the bolt. You just pull back the bolt handle, and the bolt will close. You dont have to manipulate the bolt lock lever underneath the stock. This DOES NOT hold the bolt open on the last shot/empty magazine.
I didn't think there was a way to modify the factory mags and that you needed the dedicated magazines.
 

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The factory mag has to be modified for the Last Shot Hold Open to work. Here is the link...

10/22 Automatic Bolt Stop
Thanks, I was thinking of user modications to the magazine. It appears only they can modify the magazine and only Ruger 10-shot mags can be used. And if you use an unmodified magazine you will damage the auto bolt stop.

Nice idea but it needs to be able to accept standard unmodified mags for me to get one. Bet it would be cool though.:)
 

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The factory mag has to be modified for the Last Shot Hold Open to work. Here is the link...

10/22 Automatic Bolt Stop
Very interesting...nice find...it would be better if it stayed open with an empty mag for sure...

The bang for the buck is in the auto release...the last round hold open looks expensive...especially when you consider the mag compatibility...

I am in the habit of locking the bolt open AFTER the mag has been ejected...

Honestly...I don't see it as that big of a deal but not having to fumble with it to release the bolt is a pretty big deal imo...
 

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Very interesting...nice find...it would be better if it stayed open with an empty mag for sure...

The bang for the buck is in the auto release...the last round hold open looks expensive...especially when you consider the mag compatibility...

I am in the habit of locking the bolt open AFTER the mag has been ejected...

Honestly...I don't see it as that big of a deal but not having to fumble with it to release the bolt is a pretty big deal imo...
Ruger even designed the 10/22 so it could be dry fired because they knew with the bolt not staying open after the last round people would try for that 11th shot.
 

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I would hate to have an auto loader that couldn't be dry fired...

The bolt hold open is an interesting product...I just don't see it as being very important...it would be different if one could load the magazine from the top like an SKS...

However...if you pull the trigger and it doesn't squeeze as is now it means you have a jamb...knowing that right away is more helpful imo...

Whereas if the trigger pulls and nothing goes bang...eject mag...if mag has ammo you have a live round in the chamber...if it is empty then you have to manually pull bolt back to make sure the chamber is empty but you don't have to lock it open to replace the empty mag with a full one...regardless of whether the bolt is open or closed once you replace an empty mag with a full one you still have to manually release the bolt...

I just don't see any practical advantage to that...

Not having the fumble with the bolt release to go into battery is a very big deal to me...

In the case of the 10/22 the empty mag hold open is not worth much... if anything... imo

IMO...I think a lever release and more factory 10 round mags are money better spent...the lever release is sweet and lets you drop the mag without delay or moving your grip hand...it is just so natural and when you have that the need for a last round hold open seems very unimportant...at least it does to me...
 

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I would hate to have an auto loader that couldn't be dry fired...

The bolt hold open is an interesting product...I just don't see it as being very important...it would be different if one could load the magazine from the top like an SKS...

However...if you pull the trigger and it doesn't squeeze as is now it means you have a jamb...knowing that right away is more helpful imo...

Whereas if the trigger pulls and nothing goes bang...eject mag...if mag has ammo you have a live round in the chamber...if it is empty then you have to manually pull bolt back to make sure the chamber is empty but you don't have to lock it open to replace the empty mag with a full one...regardless of whether the bolt is open or closed once you replace an empty mag with a full one you still have to manually release the bolt...

I just don't see any practical advantage to that...

Not having the fumble with the bolt release to go into battery is a very big deal to me...

In the case of the 10/22 the empty mag hold open is not worth much... if anything... imo

IMO...I think a lever release and more factory 10 round mags are money better spent...the lever release is sweet and lets you drop the mag without delay or moving your grip hand...it is just so natural and when you have that the need for a last round hold open seems very unimportant...at least it does to me...
Thanks for the info and the link. After looking at it, I agree with you. Just having the bolt stay open without fumbling is the better way to go. If they other one didn't require modified mags, it would be nice, but it's not worth it for the cost involved and then not have regular magazines work with my rifle.
 

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I'd personally love to have last shot hold open, if it would work w/ modified BX-25 magazines. That said, buying & installing a ~$10 Volquartsen automatic bolt release is one of the simplest & most useful mods one can make to a 10/22. I always lock the bolt open after I'm finished firing, anyway, & the ability to slap in a new magazine & chamber the first round w/out having to fumble around w/ the damn bolt lock is a blessing!
 

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I must be the only guy on the entire planet who has no trouble releasing the factory hold-open device. But I'd probably buy the aftermarket part anyway if I wasn't so lazy.
Plus one except the lazy.......:D

I just don't find a problem with the factory release the way it comes.
 
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