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I think buyout could apply to various situations. Bugout if your residence is in direct path of a wildfire. Bugout if the thugs are rioting. Bugout if you're lucky to survive a devastating tornado. In all cases, having a pew pew beside you just incase the unexpected comes around.
 

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A BUG is a back up gun. If you need to "bug out " you need more than a gun. Many people keep a bug out bag with essentials handy nearby. Things like a gun, ammo, light, first aid kit, water, multi tool and more will come in handy. I have a "Bug Out Truck" that will be loaded with food, fuel, propane, tools, weapons, ammo cans, and supplies that will be headed for the woods hopefully prior to any rioting/shtf event. If the bad stuff happens before I can get away I will defend my home. I live 50 miles from the city on a dead end dirt road. My house is at the top of a steep ridge. If you think one gun of any kind will take care of you, you might want to re-think your plan.
 

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Yeah I agree with stay in my home. I guess people that live in cities may need to think about bugging out to family or friends in more of a rural area.

But as far as a "Bugout gun" in today's world I would say it's something for personal defense and or able to take game for food. So some in very common caliber so if you come across some ammo hopefully the same caliber. Also same for extra mags.

So the AR platform is high on the list 223/5.56. Then IMO pistols 9MM, .40S&W, .357Sig, .45ACP 10MM then revolvers 38Spc, .357Mag 41&44 Mag.

Then IMO the most important and probably most overlooked. .22 LR rifles and handguns. Low noise signature. You can carry hundreds of rounds of ammo easy. Great for small game for food. There is more small game than large game. I'm sure you a deer could be taken with a semi auto rifle at close range 50 yards or less. It's pretty easy to accurately rapid fire a semi auto .22 rifle or pistol at close range.

Then shotguns I'd say anything.12Ga or .20Ga. they are the most popular. So as above for ammo.
 
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The “bug out” concept is more or less a prepper’s wet dream fantasy that will just never happen how they imagine. That being said, it’s good to have some basic supplies stocked up in the house for an emergency situation. A few cases of water, some long-lasting canned foods, essential non-perishables, first aid, and some tools and fuel are a good start. In terms of guns, good to have some basic/common platforms/calibers and ammo well-stocked and on hand for such an unlikely scenario.

For guns, an AR-15 for me (suppressed Geissele Super Duty with LPVO & light), Ruger American Ranch 5.56 for my wife (suppressed, takes the same ammo and mags as my gun), and a couple of P365 9mm’s are more than enough for the job of survival and defense. We have more than that, but those are the essentials.

Cannot stress enough how absurd the whole “SHTF” scenario is, but it’s a very common fantasy amongst the gun crowd so it can be fun to discuss at times.
 

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We all hear and read quite a bit about bug out bags and bug out guns generally in the context folks being prepared for a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI scenario, be it natural disaster, political, social, financial, infrastructure collapse, war or similar scenario.

IMO the immediate needs for survival vary based on where you live and what resources you have at your disposal. Urban dwellers have a whole host of different challenges to deal with than rural folk. Both may end up fending off groups of desperate people who also want to survive. It could get ugly from there. Some will be better off hunkering down in place, others may to have band together to survive and some, if not many, will need to take from the prepared In order to meet their basic needs of food and water.

My simple take on bug out bag or bug out gun is simply what can you collect in preparation or take with you to survive under a wide range of potential disaster scenarios. Some folks do nothing, some are like Boy Scouts and others are full-on preppers. It’s like insurance - how much risk you perceive, how much you can afford, etc.
 

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Oh Lord not this type of thread again.

Ok here’s the bottom line once more, in case anyone just crawled out from under a rock….

Sometimes in life bad things happen, like natural or man-made disasters. If you go to FEMA’s excellent “ready.gov” website there’s a good list of different scenarios, and common sense preparations you might take.

Some situations require a “shelter in place” place approach. Some (e.g. flooding, or a hurricane) might require temporary evacuation, like to a relative’s place unaffected by the storm, etc.

I doubt that anyone here needs any sort of special “bug out” gun for such an unplanned and short-notice road trip out of harm’s way, since any gun would probably more than sufficient.
 

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For years I carried the original scout rifle (win 94 in 32 spl) behind the seat of my truck. Now I dont keep a rifle in the truck unless I'm working out of town or traveling and it's an AR in 556. Always have a pistol on hand. If I'm spending time in the hills I also take a lever gun in 45-70 or 444 marlin.
The bugout gun is a solid concept, the controversy over what is the "right" gun is where it goes horribly sideways.
 

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I think buyout could apply to various situations. Bugout if your residence is in direct path of a wildfire. Bugout if the thugs are rioting. Bugout if you're lucky to survive a devastating tornado. In all cases, having a pew pew beside you just incase the unexpected comes around.
Of thugs are rioting, I'm cuttin' them down like grass if they try to breach the perimeter. I'm not bugging out and letting them take what's mine.
 

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Oh Lord not this type of thread again.

Ok here’s the bottom line once more, in case anyone just crawled out from under a rock….

Sometimes in life bad things happen, like natural or man-made disasters. If you go to FEMA’s excellent “ready.gov” website there’s a good list of different scenarios, and common sense preparations you might take.

Some situations require a “shelter in place” place approach. Some (e.g. flooding, or a hurricane) might require temporary evacuation, like to a relative’s place unaffected by the storm, etc.

I doubt that anyone here needs any sort of special “bug out” gun for such an unplanned and short-notice road trip out of harm’s way, since any gun would probably more than sufficient.
Any gun can be sufficient, but only a few can be the best for the job.
 

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I bought this place as my last stand. All my brothers and sisters know to come here if the sky gets angry. This shall be my last stand. I have no where to bugout too. If hell comes to me, we will fight and see who is meaner.
Just don't stop for the selfies, no one will be looking....:p
 

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A one rifle do-it-all platform when SHTF. If you think it’s stupid, good luck.
As someone who lives in South Florida and has lived through many hurricanes, evacuations, 2 weeks without power, limited food and water, sewer and tap water systems down from flooding, roads washed out; I find the whole wet dream fantasy of SHTF ridiculous.
People who have lived through that know that no one is running around with a rifle and ammo slung on them living out their hollywood movie fantasy. You maybe have a pistol on your hip, maybe. But we all have a pistol on our hip everyday so that's not a bug out gun.
It's remarkable the fantasies that people make up in their head of what they're going to do when "SHTF" yet have never tested themselves for even 1 second.
 

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As someone who lives in South Florida and has lived through many hurricanes, evacuations, 2 weeks without power, limited food and water, sewer and tap water systems down from flooding, roads washed out; I find the whole wet dream fantasy of SHTF ridiculous.
People who have lived through that know that no one is running around with a rifle and ammo slung on them living out their hollywood movie fantasy. You maybe have a pistol on your hip, maybe. But we all have a pistol on our hip everyday so that's not a bug out gun.
It's remarkable the fantasies that people make up in their head of what they're going to do when "SHTF" yet have never tested themselves for even 1 second.
That has been mostly true in the USA since maybe 1945, but there are parts of the world I have visited, and other members of my family have visited where it is a fact of life that folks will need a firearm for a chance to get home.

A striking memory I have from one of many Gettysburg trips, is the suddenness that it struck the residents. Jenny Wade comes to mind, and cannon balls in the so many rafters and the sheer number of miniballs. 1863. Was not a hollywood movie. Shangri-la is hollywood. Does history mention the armed citizen? It used to. The armed citizen fairs better than the unarmed citizen, from gettysburg to fallujah to mekong and points in between

I am not saying a bug out plan is vital, or a good/bad idea. But I do think that trusting the tax collector to keep you and yours safe IS a pure fantasy. Spending your money to prevent the sky from falling is higher on the priority list.
 
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