Agreed! But that is not the point of this thread. It is the VA hospitals not allowing them in the parking lots, locked in cars. No other Federal installation, except military, that I'm aware of, bans guns in parking lots in locked in cars. There may be some, but not Post Offices, Federal buildings or others that we would normally visit as citizens, ban guns in cars parked in their parking lots. VA Hospitals can be quite a distance from one's home. In my case it is about a 200 mile drive (round trip) to visit the nearest VA Hospital. I've been there twice in the past 6 months. Once for a 5 minute exam and the other for an eye exam. If I carry a gun in my vehicle for protection during that drive, I can't enter the VA grounds legally (and the nearest off grounds parking is a mile away). There isn't a guard at the gate, so it is just a problem if you get caught. A victimless crime, to be sure.