Sounds like a double negative to me.
Joke isn't it.
.The only dilema should be don't bring your weapon or don't go at all. Anything else is advocating braking the law. If you think your above the law then keep it to yourself.
Is it a law or just a regulation? Is it Constitutional? It is publicly owned property, after all. And many veterans fought for that Constitution and the rights guaranteed by it. Those that didn't have to fight dedicated several years to protect those rights. Why should they be taken from us just because we cross a certain line onto publicly property? I understand the reason for not taking it into the hospital where you'll likely be undressing......but locked (hopefully, out of sight) in your vehicle???
The local VA clinic bans gun inside the building but makes no distinction for the parking lot. There should be no reason for anyone to search your locked car or trunk, especially without your permission, unless you have broken some law that would giv e them a reason for a search. With that in mind, how would anyone know there was an unloaded gun in the trunk? I have never signed any papers that give away my rights concerning search and seisure to visit a VA hospital.
Agreed! But that is not the point of this thread. It is the VA hospitals not allowing them in the parking lots, locked in cars. No other Federal installation, except military, that I'm aware of, bans guns in parking lots in locked in cars. There may be some, but not Post Offices, Federal buildings or others that we would normally visit as citizens, ban guns in cars parked in their parking lots. VA Hospitals can be quite a distance from one's home. In my case it is about a 200 mile drive (round trip) to visit the nearest VA Hospital. I've been there twice in the past 6 months. Once for a 5 minute exam and the other for an eye exam. If I carry a gun in my vehicle for protection during that drive, I can't enter the VA grounds legally (and the nearest off grounds parking is a mile away). There isn't a guard at the gate, so it is just a problem if you get caught. A victimless crime, to be sure.
The VA hospital has the right to search you and your car anytime they want when you are on VA lands .[ Big time fines ] . The same thing on military bases too . Watch out carrying on Indian reservation , some federal and state parks are bad news also . I've carried since 1968 in Pa , Ca , Az , Tn and Tx and seen a lot of changes good and bad ..
That fine for ammo is not a thing I've seen or heard of before. There's always a stray round or two in my truck, and certainly several brass cases. Do you have any links to that reg?The VA hospital and land is off limits to guns and DO NOT park your car in VA parking lot with load or unload gun in car . They will keep your gun and fine you too boot and just the ammo will cost you $125 per round and they don't care if you are in a wheelchair and you have a CCW and drove over 100 miles to get there .
