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My cousin has a Colt Gold Cup National Match 1911 Pistol Series 70. He wants to use it as his ccw. I personally do not know of anyone who uses a Gold Cup as their every day carry. Does anyone here use it as their ccw? Pro's and con's of using it. He is fairly new to shooting the gun was his brothers.
 

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Many people comfortably carry a 38 oz 1911, but they'd probably find that a 10 oz micro .380 or even a 18 oz single stack 9mm is much more comfortable.

If he can handle the size and weight of the weapon, there aren't too many things inherently bad about the gold cup. The size and weight are going to be the biggest downs though. 1911's compare favorable on width to modern pistols, but in the weight department they are just downright much heavier than most guns purposefully designed for concealed carry. A good holster and belt will be REQUIRED.

I'd say the sights are going to be the other big downside of the gold cup. I don't own one, but they seem like they are probably going to be a bit 'snaggy' as most gold cups have the adjustable rears which do stick out a bit as well as the fiber optic front which is a bigger size sight. More potential to catch on the holster or clothing when drawing.

I would also see how the trigger is. Most folks don't necessarily recommend a light trigger for duty/carry use, especially if it's been custom tuned to be particularly light.

Some folks also say that a manual safety on their CCW is a downside, but that's more a matter of personal taste. I personally don't like manual safety levers, but some people think they are required.

The upside... he'd be carrying a high end colt 1911 with awesome sights, in 45 acp. That's a no nonsense round in a no nonsense platform. If you're going to carry a gun a 1911 is about as fine a choice as anyone could make, although there are many other pistols that compare favorably.

With that said... the colt gold cup is much more of a 'target shooting pistol' than it is a 'ccw/duty pistol'. While it will certainly fill the role nicely, most people would not want to subject such a fine pistol to the rigors and wear of daily carry.

Another consideration is that if it belonged to family and has sentimental value... if he ever has to use the weapon in a defensive encounter it will almost certainly be taken by police as evidence. Depending on the circumstances and where he lives he may very well never see that pistol returned to him again... or if he does it may not be in anywhere near the same condition.

There are many very fine CCW oriented pistols than can be had for around 300 dollars or even less that might fit the CCW roll better. I would consider them. Walther PPS, Ruger EC9, used glocks, all sorts of .380s etc
 

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Largest I carry is a Commander size 1911. If I could I would be carrying the full size 1911 but it is just too big for my liking.
 

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Disregard the words "Gold Cup" and it's just a 1911. As has been noted a lot of people, including myself, carry 1911's CCW. I see no problem whatsoever with your cousin's choice. He/she could do a lot worse.
 

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I’ve been shooting 1911’s for over 30 years now, I guess I don’t know any better. It’s not high capacity by any means, but you’re only under gunned if you miss. I’ll take mine any day.
 

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I carry a Keltec p-32 everywhere. Some people would drag a 105 howitzer if you let them but if you can tote it then knock your self out. I believe some comfort makes it easier, unless in a fire fight.
 

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Personally I wouldn't. Some of those chromed Gold Cup models can run $2K. Put that baby in a shadowbox above the fireplace. I think a fully-loaded Glock 19 would weigh less, and you'll get 15+1.

As MartyMM does, I also carry a P32. Love the light weight, I don't want to carry a heavy gun all day.
 

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As pointed out, some Gold Cups are worth real money. That said, your friend may be well enough off not to worry about the cost. If that's the case, I think that pistol would make a great CCW gun. Great trigger, sights and a hard hitting round make for a happier time if things really head south. I have a friend who packs a 3" S&W 686+. This is not a small gun. His logic is pretty much the same. If he really needs it he has a real gun.
 

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I would never consider carrying such a pistol. It would definitely be a safe queen for me. If he is a new shooter, it might be all he has or is proud of it since there's emotional attachment if it was his brother's. There are so many better options out there for a new shooter. But ultimately there's nothing wrong with carrying it as all is based on personal preference. With training a 1911 is always a viable option...
 

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The 1911 has been doing the job for over 100 years. Who am I to criticize. If he can carry, draw smoothly and fire accurately then I would take it over any high cap spray and pray gun.
 

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My cousin has a Colt Gold Cup National Match 1911 Pistol Series 70. He wants to use it as his ccw. I personally do not know of anyone who uses a Gold Cup as their every day carry. Does anyone here use it as their ccw? Pro's and con's of using it. He is fairly new to shooting the gun was his brothers.
I'd advise him to do some research and find out it's actual age and get some documentation on it. It "could" be one of the old models from when Colt was still making all their own parts in house and actually had real hands on quality assembly before it went out the door.
 

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I carried an AMT Hardballer for awhile , which is a stainless steel 1911 with gold cup adjustable sights .
In a word... Heavy.
Went to a 45 acp revolver for a long time ...still a bit hefty .
Now the CCW is a Airlite 38 Special J-frame that weighs 12 ozs. and this one will remain the CCW of choice . Small , light , easy to operate , fits in a pocket and I like 38 Special .

The 1911 is good for a young man who can tolerate the weight and dress around the size.
I just got old and less tolerant of those things .

Gary
 

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My carry gun is one of eleven 1911s in either .45 ACP or 10mm. They include a Colt Royal Gold Cup National Match, a Colt Gold Cup National Match, a Colt Level III Custom Shop, a Colt Wiley Clapp, two Colt Delta Elites, a Dan Wesson Valor, and a Springfield TRP Operator.
 

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A gun used in a defensive situation will likely be confiscated and you may never see it again. On the flip side, $2,000 for a successful defense of your life would be worth it to me.

The bigger issue I see is with wear/corrosion. Not only is this gun a bigger investment to encounter sweat, as it is all steel, it is more susceptible to corrosion than a polymer frame.

Still, I have been know to carry my full size SR1911. Definitely works OWB with a heavy jacket or as an open carry. Grip is a bit too long for comfort IWB.
 

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Going to the range tomorrow with my cousin and his gold cup. Will see how he dose with it and will give details when I get back. He only shot it twice before.
 

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My carry gun is one of eleven 1911s in either .45 ACP or 10mm. They include a Colt Royal Gold Cup National Match, a Colt Gold Cup National Match, a Colt Level III Custom Shop, a Colt Wiley Clapp, two Colt Delta Elites, a Dan Wesson Valor, and a Springfield TRP Operator.
Care to add any pros or cons to the carrying 1911 platform concealed? Perhaps how the gold cups match up against some of those other models you mentioned? Have a favorite?

Or did you just stop in to let us know how fancy your gun collection is?
 

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I don't want to be economy minded with my gun, ammo, or holster. If the day comes that I face death, I want the best I can throw at them. If I lose it and live, that was a great day. What's in a safe will have little value to me if I die. It's just a personal view I guess.
 

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I don't want to be economy minded with my gun, ammo, or holster. If the day comes that I face death, I want the best I can throw at them. If I lose it and live, that was a great day. What's in a safe will have little value to me if I die. It's just a personal view I guess.
While this is a good philosophy in general, I think that there is definitely a price point where you begin to see rapidly diminishing returns. At some point you aren't actually buying additional reliability so much as aesthetic refinements and other things that often add little/no value to function.

I won't fault anyone who wants to carry a nice gun because they like nice things anymore than I would someone who wears a nice watch. However, lets not pretend like that Rolex really tells time any better than the Timex... It's mostly just vanity.

If your gun saves your life I can totally see being content with the scenario of it being confiscated... But suppose you just end up in a total FUBAR situation where your gun somehow becomes "evidence" without contributing to keeping you alive at all... that would be a pretty big bummer to lose a high end pistol that was gifted to you by family for months/years/forever.
 

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Went to the range with my cousin and his Gold Cup. He will not use it as his carry. He is 55 6'3" 190 Lb.and had trouble racking the slid. When put in battery he did it by releasing the slid stop.Showed him the correct way to do it also to keep it pointed down range.

He was very cavalear about the whole range session. I really do not think he should be carrying a gun any gun. Told him to go for some lessons from a trained instructor. He said he would be a wast of his time he knows all he needs to know. He shot his Gold Cup at a target 7 yards it came back with two bullet holes in it. He did not do any better shooting my SR22 Single 6 SR9 or my carry Sccy CPX2. My personal thoughts on him carry a gun he is a danger to himself and others.

He is a family member but I refuse to be responsible for his actions. I am 70 years old with stage 4 colon cancer. Told him to find a different hobby. He did not take it to good.
To be honest I really don't care. What ever range time I have left I want to feel safe and not with this maroon. Sorry for the rant.
 
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