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Just being curious...but does anyone still CC a 5-shot .38 snubbie revolver as a BUG or even a Primary anymore and if so, what?

If so, what is your preferred ammo for personal defense?

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I pocket carry a S&W 442 Airweight in .38 Spl. My carry rds. are Speer GD 135gr. I carry it in an Uncle Mikes #4. I also carry a speed strip on my belt. For my area and daily routine I feel pretty comfortable with my choice.

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Often carry a Ruger SP-101. OWB (Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake) or pocket (DeSantis Nemisis) w/ Precision One 148g. Wadcutters.
 

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I don't carry my 642 as much as I used to but when I do it's carried in a Mika pocket holster loaded with Speer Gold Dot 135 grain +P. An alternate load is the Remington Golden Sabre 125 grain +P JHP.
 

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S&W 642-1 J Frame
Range:
American Eagle .38, 130gr, FMJ
BlazerBrass 38 Special, 125gr. 865fps. FMJ
Winchester Service Grade 130gr. 800fps. FMJ FN
TopShot Ultimate Match 125gr. HP
Carry:
Hornady Critical Defense 38 SPCL 90gr FTX 1200fps
Hornady American Gunner 38 SPCL125gr XTP 900fps(current carry and night stand load)
 

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I know a couple people that carry SW 442 with Hornady Critical Defense, .380 ACP, FTX, 90 Grain.

I bought them the revolvers and after trying several Hornady FTX brands, they decided to go with the ammo listed above. Age is the biggest factor in their decision... they are in their 70s. They can fire bigger calibers with a table in a range type setting, but as far as carrying, drawing it and firing multiple shots they feel this is their best option.

I prefer they carried something with more power but I have to just stay in my lane and be glad they at least carry something.
 

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Yep, Ruger LCR with boot grip in an OWB Kydex holster. Loaded with Speer Gold dot 135 grain Short Barrel ammo. Nice lightweight carry package.
 

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The only gun I would conceal carry is a DAO wheelie. .38 +p has good expansion and penetration with the right ammo. See Lucky Gunner’s ballistics tests at https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/

The Hornady Critical Defense round, my pick, has moderate recoil, flash, and noise out of my Kimber K6S, a gun I pocket-carry with confidence. Shot placement is key with any bullet...so practice draw shots, shots while moving and from cover.

It is a six-shooter, however, which may disqualify my pick.
 

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My EDC is a Ruger LCR .357 loaded with .38 Special ARX 77 grain ammo. I rotate it with my LCRx 3" .357 loaded with the same. I carry an additional 5 rounds in a speed strip.
 

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The LCR in 38 was the first ccw gun I bought in 2018. I just took a ccw class finally, after all this time and plan on applying for the license as soon as I can. But sure, a 38 in spring or in fall weather seems just fine to me. In winter I'd switch over to a 9mm Shield, and in summer i'd probably carry a 380, but I see no reason to not go with a 38 if that's what you have.

I favor the Speer short barrel ammo
 

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I've CC'd a 5-shot snubbie, an SP101 in .357, since December 1994, often with .38's in it...and have been quite comfortable with it. I tend towards a Glock 36 in .45 acp as an EDC, but I will often throw a Taurus 85 in a pocket for a quick run out to a store or to pick a child up from an activity or friend's house.

Recently (2+ years ago) I picked up an older Taurus 85 (stainless steel version built in 1990) that was still NIB...and it shoots the Hornady 158 grain JHP XTP to point-of-aim every time...and gives as good or better penetration as many 9mm rounds do.
I'm comfortable with it...I can hit what I shoot at with it...and the .38 caliber has been around for a loooooooong time.

I've had a S&W 637 from the Performance Shop, which was really a nice revolver, but it was somewhat nasty to shoot the 158 grain rounds through where as the steel Taurus helped to handle the recoil a lot better. The same goes for the Ruger LCR vs the SP101...the SP101 just helps manage recoil better!
 

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2 of 'em actually. S&W 637 Model 2 and LCR 357 loaded with 38's.
 

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Ruger LCRX .38 Special +p I carry Hornady Critical Defense .38 Special 90 grain FTX bullet regular pressure. My main CC gun. It’s been very reliable.
 

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I've CC'd a 5-shot snubbie, an SP101 in .357, since December 1994, often with .38's in it...and have been quite comfortable with it. I tend towards a Glock 36 in .45 acp as an EDC, but I will often throw a Taurus 85 in a pocket for a quick run out to a store or to pick a child up from an activity or friend's house.

Recently (2+ years ago) I picked up an older Taurus 85 (stainless steel version built in 1990) that was still NIB...and it shoots the Hornady 158 grain JHP XTP to point-of-aim every time...and gives as good or better penetration as many 9mm rounds do.
I'm comfortable with it...I can hit what I shoot at with it...and the .38 caliber has been around for a loooooooong time.

I've had a S&W 637 from the Performance Shop, which was really a nice revolver, but it was somewhat nasty to shoot the 158 grain rounds through where as the steel Taurus helped to handle the recoil a lot better. The same goes for the Ruger LCR vs the SP101...the SP101 just helps manage recoil better!
I too have an SP101 that is a joy to shoot, but I've found it a little heavy for my liking as a EDC firearm coming in at 26 oz.. I currently carry a LCR .357 (17 oz) and am transitioning into a 3" LCRx .357 (21 oz), still far short of he SP101. I also utilize ARX ammo in .38 Special 77 grain to mitigate recoil. I'm also considering the ARX .357 in 86 grain but am concerned about over penetration in a defensive role.

What attracts me to the ARX round for a defensive purpose is the bullet technology that gives increased velocity from a a short barreled gun such as the LCR. That velocity combined with the hydraulic cavitation caused by the bullet flutes creates a wound channel on a par with a heavier grain lead hollow point shot from a longer barrel. I'm not aware of any cases where this has been used in self defense, but I've read where hunting live animals with it, such as hogs, has left them totally incapacitated. A video review by Paul Harrell left him pretty impressed by the rounds devastation when he used it in his meat tests.

The downside of the ARX ammo is that it shoots a little low compared to the heavier grains, and that is why I'm transitioning to the 3" LCRx with adjustable rear sights so I can dial it in for that round.
 

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I have an ankle holster for my Ruger SP-101 which is my primary concealed carry. Usually I carry 125 grain Barnes TAC-XPD for short barrel in .357 magnum. But I also have a very small stash of 158 grain Federal LSWHP Nyclad in .38 Special +P that I do not hesitate to carry either.
In addition, I have a very excellent S&W Model 19-5 with a 2 1/2” barrel that is in the rotation. It will probably take over full time duties from my SP-101, it is heavier by about 7 ounces, but better ergonomically and holds 6 rounds. That’s probably heresy around here, but so be it. Truth be told, the older S&W revolvers are excellent kit.



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I carry one or another J frame in .38sp quite often, My Wife carries an old blue Charter Arms .38. Whatever ammo is on top of the pile......
 
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