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@Redhawk100 brought it up earlier, killing is just the second to last step of hunting. The main reason I prefer to hunt in my state on private or public land, is it doesn’t cost me a lot of money or time to get myself in a place to hunt.

With no real time and money invested in a day in the woods, I could care less if I “waste” it photographing animals and passing on the small ones. I can sit for a week patiently.

If I have paid for a hunt, I become obsessed with it and to be honest, enjoy it less.
Thats the thing. These guys do this to me. "Come on, come with us, we will die and miss without you!" No preasure right? In their defense they are all more than capable, I am just easy to blame. Broad shoulders I guess :ROFLMAO:
 

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Thats the thing. These guys do this to me. "Come on, come with us, we will die and miss without you!" No preasure right? In their defense they are all more than capable, I am just easy to blame. Broad shoulders I guess :ROFLMAO:
Peer pressure is a mother $%&^%##. It goes right along with hey watch this...
 

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I could not shoot a moose. I don't know if anyone here has seen one with their own eyes, but they are enormous and majestic animals. We lived in Alaska for three years when I was small and my dad was stationed at Fort Wainwright.in Fairbanks. You could be in your car and come around a corner in the mountains and a large bull moose would be standing in the middle of the road. The only the thing you could do was wait for him to get bored with staring at you and move along.

Did I mention they are enormous? ;)
They are enormous. Once I was at some place with a moose trophy hung on the wall & said "That's probably about the right height." A guy said no way. When we got back to work, he looked up the stats, ~ 7ft at the shoulder, etc.

We worked on a project in Beulah, ND. Design conditions were 40 deg F below zero (wet bulb temp) with 50 mph sustained winds. A lot of things had to be custom made for the project. The locals had a lottery for the annual moose hunt. I heard that if you win, that's your only chance to bag a moose, you can't win a 2nd time. That was 30 years ago.

There were very few volunteers for start-up & I wasn't one of them.

{added ND moose lotto link: Moose Hunting | North Dakota Game and Fish}
 

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Hunting isn't about the kill. It's about being on the hunt in the woods. I've spent a lot of time hunting and brought back nothing. Where I used to hunt hogs, it was luck of the draw as to whether or not they would wander through my ambush spot. In the end, just having spent a few hours hanging out either in a stand or a likely patch of brush was good enough to enjoy it.

Learning all of the little sounds like distinguishing between a raccoon, possum, otter or armadillo crashing through the brush and the sound of a hog moving creates a connection with the woods that one could never otherwise achieve. Recognizing the sound of a lizard jumping onto a palm frond and distinguishing that from the sound of something else falling from higher was another fun thing.
I heard this saying recently when watching an outdoor survival video, "when it's dark even a chipmunk sounds like a bear".
 

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Peer pressure is a mother $%&^%##. It goes right along with hey watch this...
Nah. Peer pressure is only not feeling secure with yourself. I don't hunt anymore. Have not in decades. Have no desire to kill animals, unless we were starving as a last resort. I shoot for fun and self protection only. I could really care less what others do and I could care less what others think of me. I'm me and others are them. Who gives a rats behind what people think. Am I a p*ssy for not wanting to kill cute little and big animals? I'm sure some think so and I could give a sh*t less LOL.
 

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Nah. Peer pressure is only not feeling secure with yourself. I don't hunt anymore. Have not in decades. Have no desire to kill animals, unless we were starving as a last resort. I shoot for fun and self protection only. I could really care less what others do and I could care less what others think of me. I'm me and others are them. Who gives a rats behind what people think. Am I a p*ssy for not wanting to kill cute little and big animals? I'm sure some think so and I could give a sh*t less LOL.
not at all!
hunting ain't for everyone. Before I mow though here is a strange revelation I had this morning watching the blue birds and blue jays dart after a squirrel in one of my wife's gardens. When I was very young, and my wife at her present age would have seen the scene and thought they were playing.... I saw a life and death fight over resources. it is all in perspective as to what we see.
 

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This will be my last post for a good while. I do talk too much. Which is ok, except I cannot hear as well when I am gum bumping, or thumb thumping on a phone....
So I hide this gem of wisdom for those that may need it here.
Train. Train like your life depends on it. Because it may in fact. But remember that being good at violence is not a great goal. I fear nothing except God and I cannot always save those I love. There are way more valuable aspirations, loftier goals, and more worthy causes.
I am good at violence, it has brought little comfort. I learned to love people. The second one brought joy, the first one is of little value without the second.
Slowly I am forgetting the hate.
Have fun, shoot often, and shoot well.
Oh and buy American made stuff if you love Americans.
 

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This will be my last post for a good while. I do talk too much. Which is ok, except I cannot hear as well when I am gum bumping, or thumb thumping on a phone....
So I hide this gem of wisdom for those that may need it here.
Train. Train like your life depends on it. Because it may in fact. But remember that being good at violence is not a great goal. I fear nothing except God and I cannot always save those I love. There are way more valuable aspirations, loftier goals, and more worthy causes.
I am good at violence, it has brought little comfort. I learned to love people. The second one brought joy, the first one is of little value without the second.
Slowly I am forgetting the hate.
Have fun, shoot often, and shoot well.
Oh and buy American made stuff if you love Americans.
I only have two three words........ Well said Sir. Okay, except this. Keep on talking, please! I enjoy reading your posts.
 

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Over the course of my postings here I have chronicled a snippet into my own "self loathing" of sorts.
I started with a gang of vietnam vets who hung together. My dad, his brother John, his buddy Frank Fox, and my two best friends dad Jay Amstutz and Kevin Mcluaghlin. And a few others. My grand dad was a ww2 vet and my other grand father korea. They kind of looked down on my dads buds, but not in a bad way, more like a worried father. (Duh).
I was taught "the way of the gun" like so many of you at a very early age. Given a single .410 and told to learn. Hunting with them all was a unique, fun experience.
Ok now my reason for posting. "You use handguns all wrong, they get you to a rifle boy. Nothing more". "You use 9mm way too much son. Get away from it or it will spoil you". "Shotguns are fine, large rifles are finer". "Make each shot count, don't count so much on always having ammunition" "those gizmos are great, don't depend on them"...and on and on. All of which have proven true.
I am slated to go on a hunting trip with my own friends, who know me and depend on me for long shot follow ups. It has been 22 years since I have been on a hunt like this. We travel a few states and do some crazy fun stuff. But I can't bring myself to get ready. This past weekend I played with my 9mm's and left my "real rifles" in the safe. Am I ruined? Idk.
Can't mention it to my dad, or "I told you" will be all I hear. Can't mention it to my buds, or "wtf loser" is all I will hear.
So I am slightly upset. No advice needed, I know the truth. But its always appreciated. I gotta get that savage ready for the wild again. Hoping a 200 yard zero does the trick with the 30-06. I will not reach past 600. They want a moose, so idk. View attachment 176424
Many is the pig I've taken with my .45 Colt (Winchester LA), I've taken bear with it as well, but I love my M77 30-06. I also love my 1911, it's my back up.
 
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