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I am Sitting at my computer, and I don't feel like getting up. I got a question about the .44spl and .44mag. They use the same dies to load with don't they? Is the difference in the lenght of the casting?[:eek:)]The dummy is at it again.[:eek:)]
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i have used the same dies but i dont think i could crimp my 44 special rounds with my mag dies i dont remember for sure, the difference is the same as 38 to .357 then again i dont feel like getting up from the computer either lol 1/8 inch?
1/10th inch difference. You can use the .44 Mag dies to load .44 special, at least with Lee dies.
quote:Originally posted by Baldy

I am Sitting at my computer, and I don't feel like getting up. I got a question about the .44spl and .44mag. They use the same dies to load with don't they? Is the difference in the lenght of the casting?[:eek:)]The dummy is at it again.[:eek:)]
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Baldy, you can use the same dies for 44 Spcl and 44 Mag. Most die sets have a little "spacer ring" with them. Usually if you set the dies for 44 Spcl you can use the same setting for 44 Mag by using the spacer. The difference is the length of the brass.
38 Spcl, 357 Mag and 357 Maximum work the same way.
Rained just enough to make work wait-not sleepy-here am I, too---how hard would it be to trim magnum cases to load .44 Spl? I feel that's the epitome of revolver loads-it's just so accurate and smooth-shooting-I didn't like the Heritage .44 a couple of years ago-fit and finish sucked-but the Thunder Ranch is sweet-a fitting tribute to a man who's helped a lot of people get and stay ready.
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Rained just enough to make work wait-not sleepy-here am I, too---how hard would it be to trim magnum cases to load .44 Spl?
It depends, do you have a hand powered trimmer or an electric one? I just buy my 44 spcl brass, it's cheap and a lot quicker and easier.
Neither-craving a .44 revolver for CCW and will have to reload to be proficient-figured .44Mag brass would be more plentiful/cheaper than .44Spl-I'm itching for a .44 more and more-
Thanks for the info gentleman. Going tomorrow to pump some more rounds through my S&W 21-4. To me it has about the same recoil as my .45 does. I sure do like what I am seeing in this .44spl round.
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Neither-craving a .44 revolver for CCW and will have to reload to be proficient-figured .44Mag brass would be more plentiful/cheaper than .44Spl-I'm itching for a .44 more and more-
I checked Midway's prices on 44 spcl brass. They have Starline 100 for $14.29, 500 for $61.99, Remington was 100 for $13.49, 500 for 63.99, Winchester was 100 for $14.49, 500 for $66.99.

44 Spcl brass just keeps going and going and going for me, buy 500 and shoot forever. :D
Last ammo I bought was Academy closeout Gold Dot (Blazer) for $14.25-I have no idea what Spl. usually goes for-I know I'll have to reload because .44 Spl is my favorite to shoot---I used 5 Gr. Unique and a 200 or 210 LSWC-mild for an N-frame but rough in a Charter Bulldog!!
I do as 2400 does. I use a spacer ring when loading mags. No further adjustment needed. I also love 44 specials.
looks like i will have to make myself one of these spacer rings.
Been thinking on this one some-if the spacer washer or ring would hold the crimp die higher or let it go lower(.44Spl) couldn't you do the same thing by screwing the ring on the crimp die up on the die 1/10"?
Yep Sheepdog that's what I do on my SDB Dillon, and with .38/.357s. I am telling you I had that gun out today, and it is one of the finest I have ever shot in my days. Double action has a smooth pull to set, and a clean break when it fires. Real easy to control, and right back on target. Thinking about getting a holster for it, and packing it. I am a old time revolver man anyway. I just can't break the habit of steel, and wood.
I understand-solid...strong-reliable-smooth. I always preferred the S&W out-of-the-box double action pull to any other brand-the old ones were like you describe-you knew how far and you knew how much-like an extension of your hand...no loose, no wiggle. Don Hume in Miami Ok will have holsters that will fit that and they are easy to talk to...right priced and good quality.
Sheedog: You would also have to lift up the belling die if you don't use a spacer.
That's right-it's been a long time die one is sizer/decapper------die two is expander---die three is seat/crimp---right??
Nah. Sheepdog you got to drink the Blue Coolaid. 1.Decap & Size. 2.Upstroke incert primer. Down stroke bell the mouth and powder charge. 3.Seat the bullet. 4.Crimp the case to the bullet. Bingo you now can drink the Blue Coolaid. 10-4.
Sounds easier and faster than a RockChucker-I probably won't reload till I get the .44s I want-then I'll have to-might try a Dillon-if I can get past the ugly wimmen in their catalog, that is.
Sheepdog, do they look as bad as that waitress with the messed up corn silk.
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