[jlh820]

I have an AR-15 with a Slidefire stock and it's a whole lotta fun to shoot. But I wonder if there is a way to legally obtain and install the part that activates the "fun" switch on them?

Can you just pay a stamp tax and get the parts?

 

[Fackler Rebel]

Don't know about that but for full auto you need to get the Class 3 ok from the ATBF and once you do have a full auto weapon there are loads of regulations that you must abide by to legally own it, proper safe is one of them I know.

reb

 

[Sr40ken]

You can do it if you want to spend the money and have the government up in your business.

 

[jlh820]

Don't know about that but for full auto you need to get the Class 3 ok from the ATBF and once you do have a full auto weapon there are loads of regulations that you must abide by to legally own it, proper safe is one of them I know.

reb

You can do it if you want to spend the money and have the government up in your business.

I know it's a hassle, and I thought the price was out of reach, but looking at silencers stamp tax of $200, I thought I'd check.

 

[HappilyAddicted]

You can get a registered Auto Sear but that could cost you around $5,000 not including the stamp.
F/A is fun but expensive all around (cost, ammo, stamp etc.)

 

[jlh820]

You can get a registered Auto Sear but that could cost you around $5,000 not including the stamp.
F/A is fun but expensive all around (cost, ammo, stamp etc.)

I'm sure I'll never do it, but do you know how I'd go about it if I won the lottery tomorrow? (unlikely, seeing as I've never bought a lottery ticket)

 

[HappilyAddicted]

I'm sure I'll never do it, but do you know how I'd go about it if I won the lottery tomorrow? (unlikely, seeing as I've never bought a lottery ticket)

My advice to you should you win the lottery is to give me half and I will tell you how to go about it.

On a serious note, the first thing you need to do is find a Class III dealer who knows what they are doing. This is one purchase where you do not want the process screwed up. The second thing is to call your county sheriff to see if they would sign off on it (some make it impossible). The recommended way to avoid the local LEO sign off is to set up a trust. Once that's done, have the dealer help with all the paper work, buy your auto sear or FA rifle, send in paperwork, pay for stamp, and wait an eternity

There is a lot more to it but that's the abbreviated version. Your dealer (if they're good) will walk you through the whole process.

 

[KKBMTGG/go army]

My advice to you should you win the lottery is to give me half and I will tell you how to go about it.

On a serious note, the first thing you need to do is find a Class III dealer who knows what they are doing. This is one purchase where you do not want the process screwed up. The second thing is to call your county sheriff to see if they would sign off on it (some make it impossible). The recommended way to avoid the local LEO sign off is to set up a trust. Once that's done, have the dealer help with all the paper work, buy your auto sear or FA rifle, send in paperwork, pay for stamp, and wait an eternity

There is a lot more to it but that's the abbreviated version. Your dealer (if they're good) will walk you through the whole process.

Good advice, rule #1 is of course go through a proper licensed class 3 dealer. Don't monkey around with something like this or you will regret it.
Another piece of advice is avoid the "drop in auto sear" approach, buy a proper rifle if that's what you want and be prepared to get a second mortgage on your house.
Supressors are much less costly.

 

[jlh820]

Good advice, rule #1 is of course go through a proper licensed class 3 dealer. Don't monkey around with something like this or you will regret it.
Another piece of advice is avoid the "drop in auto sear" approach, buy a proper rifle if that's what you want and be prepared to get a second mortgage on your house.
Supressors are much less costly.

Well, if I ever become rich, (and I'm running out of time ) I'll just ask my friend that owns a LGS. He's a class III dealer and offered an M16 me... for about $10,000. He got it in mint condition for $6,000. At least I got to handle it!

 

[bwinters]

I have seen the stock you talk about and have seen fired in Penn. It is not legal for me to own as a NJ state resident. also not legal collapsible of folding stocks on a semi auto rifle or a pistol grip on a semi auto shotgun.

 

[jlh820]

I have seen the stock you talk about and have seen fired in Penn. It is not legal for me to own as a NJ state resident. also not legal collapsible of folding stocks on a semi auto rifle or a pistol grip on a semi auto shotgun.

Actually, I'm talking about the sear. I already have the slidefire stock. Which, according to their literature, is legal in all 50 states. I'm just repeating what their information says.

 

[FiremanBob]

I once read somewhere that the military doesn't use the auto function of the AR much, as it sprays too many wasted shots. Better to use your tax stamp money on a belt-fed.

 

[dubshooter]

We got a call about people in the desert shooting "automatic weapons". I thought "Awesome, I want to go play!" and rushed up there.

Nah, it was just bump stocks. Still shot a mag with it, it was fun, but it's not the same as clicking the selector lever twice to F/A

Also, if you win the lottery and want to get your F/A, there is a law enforcement tax on the weapon. You can just give it to me in cash. I'll take care of it for you

 

[Desert Dawg Arms]

Hope you like spending your time in club Fed. If you want to drop a autosear in, it's best to be a 01/07 dealer with class III SOT and a demo letter from your local top cop. It is illegal to own a post 1986 auto without it.

 

[jlh820]

I once read somewhere that the military doesn't use the auto function of the AR much, as it sprays too many wasted shots. Better to use your tax stamp money on a belt-fed.

I like the way you think!

 

[jlh820]

We got a call about people in the desert shooting "automatic weapons". I thought "Awesome, I want to go play!" and rushed up there.

Nah, it was just bump stocks. Still shot a mag with it, it was fun, but it's not the same as clicking the selector lever twice to F/A

Also, if you win the lottery and want to get your F/A, there is a law enforcement tax on the weapon. You can just give it to me in cash. I'll take care of it for you

Good deal! I'll take you up on it as soon as I win the lottery! BTW - with my slidefire stock I've been told it will shoot up to 900 rpm. It does take a bit of practice... and a lot of ammo!

 

[jlh820]

Hope you like spending your time in club Fed. If you want to drop a autosear in, it's best to be a 01/07 dealer with class III SOT and a demo letter from your local top cop. It is illegal to own a post 1986 auto without it.

Sounds like I've got to be satisfied with my slidefire stock for now. I really don't use it that often, but it's fun when I do.

 

[cristopher1976]

Just as sr40ken said,unless your reciever was made before may of 86 you can't "convert" an ar15 to full auto. The reciever is what the atf considers the gun. With some brands such as h&k it is the sear,but not most.

 

[jlh820]

Just as sr40ken said,unless your reciever was made before may of 86 you can't "convert" an ar15 to full auto. The reciever is what the atf considers the gun. With some brands such as h&k it is the sear,but not most.

Bummer! I thought it was just the sear on all of them.

Oh well, I can't afford the tax anyway!

 

[KSR]

Just as sr40ken said,unless your reciever was made before may of 86 you can't "convert" an ar15 to full auto. The reciever is what the atf considers the gun. With some brands such as h&k it is the sear,but not most.

You can put an RDIAS or Registered Lightning Link (made and registered before the 86 cut off) In any lower receiver, those parts are considered the machine gun. What you said does apply for registered M16 lowers.