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Got a couple new additions to the vault. Already swapped in 16# hammer springs in them, tomorrow they go to the range. Hopefully they function 100% with the lighter springs, I also have 18# springs for them, just in case...the 23# factory springs Ruger puts in their revolvers leave me with sore thumbs after a box or two of ammo.
 

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I also dislike the 23 lb. spring that comes on the standard Blackhawks.
The 19 lb. that comes with the New Vaquero and Flattop is much better, and good insurance against light strikes compared to lighter springs.
I guess 16 lb. would be fine for a range/competition gun, but mine are carried in the woods for protection, and Black bears are thick here in the Ponderosa Pine forest.

One of my Flattops is having light strike issues, and I've done everything I can think of, changed hammers, transfer bars, even gone up to a 23 lb. spring.
The firing pin looks fine and has good protrusion if pressed manually with a punch or something, but when the hammer/transfer bar is doing the pushing, not so much protrusion. It might have to go back to Ruger.
 

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I also dislike the 23 lb. spring that comes on the standard Blackhawks.
The 19 lb. that comes with the New Vaquero and Flattop is much better, and good insurance against light strikes compared to lighter springs.
I guess 16 lb. would be fine for a range/competition gun, but mine are carried in the woods for protection, and Black bears are thick here in the Ponderosa Pine forest.

One of my Flattops is having light strike issues, and I've done everything I can think of, changed hammers, transfer bars, even gone up to a 23 lb. spring.
The firing pin looks fine and has good protrusion if pressed manually with a punch or something, but when the hammer/transfer bar is doing the pushing, not so much protrusion. It might have to go back to Ruger.
Interesting. I've got 16# springs in my New Vaqueros, they have gone "bang" every time the were supposed to. I have a 15# spring in my Single Ten, it has gone bang all but one time in over a thousand rounds, had a good dent on the rim of the casing, rotated the round and hit it with the hammer again, "bang", I think it was just a bad spot in the primmer where the firing pin hit the first time.

Didn't make it to the range today, Cowkid1 needed to borrow my Jeep to run Cowkid2 around town...didn't feel like riding the Harley to the range with rain coming in.
 

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You have a Couple of nice revolvers there. I have a pair of Ruger New Vaquero Bisleys that I use for Cowboy Action Shooting.


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Finally got them to the range, the birdshead was flawless with the 16# spring, the plow handle had more fail to fire (light strikes) than actual fires. Brought them home and put an 18# spring in the plow handle; tomorrow I plan on going back to the range again, hopefully the plow handle is g2g.

The little birdshead really throws a fireball for just being a .22lr. I like it!

Edit add: The birdshead was a PITA to get the casings out for the first couple cylinders, but after that they popped right out, hopefully it stays that way, or gets even better.
 

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The plow handle still had lots of f2f with the 18# spring today, I begrudgingly put the 23# factory spring back in. Maybe when it smooths out from use I can put a lighter spring back in.
 

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I see you got them! Meant to follow up earlier. Man, do those look great! Too bad with the spring issues.
I like them. It's disappointing that the plow handle Bearcat doesn't like the lighter springs...all of my other Ruger single action revolvers are fine with the lighter springs. I will make the plow handle work with a lighter spring, just don't know how yet..other than trying to smooth out the action from use.

I'm sure some "action work" would speed up the process, but I'm not experienced with doing that myself, and it's not a big enough deal for me to have a gunsmith take care of it...at the moment. Maybe I'll find a gunsmith to take care of it, I'm sure it would be an easy thing for a good gunsmith to take care of.
 

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One thing I did notice with the plow handle, the cylinder moves forward and backward a lot more than it probably should...that likely has an effect on the light strikes. Before I send it back to Ruger, I'm going to try it with the 23# factory spring. Maybe after work tomorrow, the range is only a few miles from the house.
 

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There's plenty of videos showing the tear down. But I totally understand not feeling comfortable doing it yourself. The small cost of a good gunsmith can sometimes save a lot due to rework.

Cylinder movement doesn't sound very good. Did you check the gap to see what the max is?
 

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There's plenty of videos showing the tear down. But I totally understand not feeling comfortable doing it yourself. The small cost of a good gunsmith can sometimes save a lot due to rework.

Cylinder movement doesn't sound very good. Did you check the gap to see what the max is?
I'm not worried about tear down of any of my guns; I had to completely disassemble and reassemble my New Vaquero to swap in the SBH hammer, and change the springs.

The plow handle cylinder max gap between cylinder and forcing cone is .007", and minimum gap is .000", it slides all the way (I know it's only .007") forward until the cylinder face is against the forcing cone.

The birdshead has a max gap of .007", and a minimum gap of .007", kind of surprised it doesn't even slide 1/1000th of an inch, but the cylinder rotates freely.
 

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I haven't made it back to the range to test it with the original spring. My wife called me yesterday while I was at work with an emergency at our barbershop...the clocks were not adjusted from daylight savings time...and she said she couldn't reach them. LOL, to be fair, my wife is only 5' 1", and I'm 6' 3", so that took priority after work. Then I was just famished from that service call, and sat down for a beer when I got home...today, I kind of forgot about it.

I will make it back to the range in the next few days and post a follow up.
 
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