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hi guys I'm new, just got a brand new Ruger lc9s pro from Gander mountain. took it to the range to get safe with it and went thru 50 rounds of federal with no problem. I clean the gun just a minor break down, lube the spring clean the barrel and lube the rack. I know how to clean a gun, there are twenty different videos online going over it, I did it correctly. Reassemble and guns perfect. i'm feeling happy with my purchase. A few days later I take my CCW class and after shooting my twenty five rounds I pass and decide to shoot the rest of the box. But the gun won't fire. rerack clear the round. Same thing, no click. The gun doesn't cock. 75 rounds in. Did I choose the wrong brand? Sure I have a protection plan its being sent back to Ruger but how do I trust it now? Maybe if you guys have any ideas what would stop it from cocking?:mad::(
 

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Hi, and welcome to the Ruger Forum.

The LC9s has received excellent reviews. Generally speaking, Ruger firearms are built really well. Ruger also has outstanding service. If you have already sent yours back to Ruger, please be sure to keep us posted on what happens.

As for what went wrong? Assuming nothing broke, the most likely thing is probably that something got clogged up in the striker channel. Oil, dirt, powder residue, possibly a piece of brass...
 

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Thanks for replying. OK so your telling me oil and or grit can stop this style of firing mechanism? That's the trade off for a long trigger pull and a hammer?
 

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Thanks for replying. OK so your telling me oil and or grit can stop this style of firing mechanism? That's the trade off for a long trigger pull and a hammer?
Oil and grit can stop any mechanism. Send it in, get it back and test shoot a few hundred rounds.

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hi guys I'm new, just got a brand new Ruger lc9s pro from Gander mountain. took it to the range to get safe with it and went thru 50 rounds of federal with no problem. I clean the gun just a minor break down, lube the spring clean the barrel and lube the rack. I know how to clean a gun, there are twenty different videos online going over it, I did it correctly. Reassemble and guns perfect. i'm feeling happy with my purchase. A few days later I take my CCW class and after shooting my twenty five rounds I pass and decide to shoot the rest of the box. But the gun won't fire. rerack clear the round. Same thing, no click. The gun doesn't cock. 75 rounds in. Did I choose the wrong brand? Sure I have a protection plan its being sent back to Ruger but how do I trust it now? Maybe if you guys have any ideas what would stop it from cocking?:mad::(
You real aren't giving us much info to go on.

You say no "click".

Is the trigger moving? (there is a click when that happens.)

Another louder click happens when the striker releases.

If you slowly open the slide, is the firing pin sticking out of the breach face?

Was the primer dented?
 

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I agree with above ^^^^ , if any oil whatsoever go in the hole where the firing pin hits the shot then yes it can cause problems . Videos show how to clean a gun but hardly ever if ever have I seen one that said that when oiling do not hold then gun pointing up and allow oil to drop down inside to the firing pin . I'm not saying this is what happened to your gun , just saying videos don't mention that part . I don't shoot federal so have no experience with that brand but I don't shoot steel shots cause they shoot dirty and make it harder to clean . I shoot strictly brass only and no reloads .
 

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Thanks for replying. OK so your telling me oil and or grit can stop this style of firing mechanism? That's the trade off for a long trigger pull and a hammer?
No trade off involved. Both designs are affected by junk that can jam up the channel.

The early hammer-fired LC9 models had problems with light strikes. The problem was the firing pin hole wasn't chamferred and as the barrel unlocked and the firing pin swiped across the primer, small shavings of brass were brought back into the firing pin channel. Eventually the channel clogged up.

Many sent their firearm back to Ruger for a fix. Others simply used a drill bit and did the chamferring themselves in about 15 seconds.

If you go back far enough, you can read all the threads about that here.

At this point, you haven't given us enough info about your issues.
 

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Hi, guys thanks for responding. So, to clarify. 25 rounds in after cleaning I reload the clip load the gun and fire three more rounds when on the fourth trigger pull, the trigger goes all the way back no click. Rerack clear the round no click all the way back tried several more times nothing so back to Ruger sad/mad/concerned I got the one lemon "Bob" wasn't paying attention too the day it was made. I emailed Ruger they responded quickly. Obviously nothing more will be learned until they receive it. I asked for a supervisor at their gun Smith shop to contact me after they resolve the issue because if I'm going to trust this gun as my personal daily carry I want to know what was done to prevent it from happening again. Such as the polishing of metal flecks in the guide hole as some have suspected. I'll let you know what they say but would appreciate your comments on possible causes until then so I may visualize in my mind how the mechanism can potentially fail. So I may prevent doing such things. Thank you.
 

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Also to re-re clarify, yes I took the mag out reloaded it and reracked thru several rounds of no click. The slide operated as normal everything felt normal except the no click gun go boom part.
 

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You pay your money and take your chances. I have an older LC9, fired several hundred rounds RN and HP and it's never missed a lick. Bought a CMD, sent it in on warranty(it shot way low). Ruger scrapped it and sent a new one. The new one had a loose bbl at the hood, threw brass in my face and shot low. Sent it back, they didn't repair it but did put in a long link to tighten it up, fixed the brass in face problem. They couldn't or wouldn't do anything about shooting low, said they don't care where it shoots as long as it groups they are happy with it. I had them install a black front sight and took a file to it to regulate it. I really like the gun now but the long link concerns me, we'll see how long it lasts.
 

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"You pay your money and take your chances" is not quite the most prudent way of going about life. That's why I went to the range to put the weapon thru its paces. I'm not worried, I saw some videos of guys the had an Lc9 and when the primers on some bullets melted from the heat of explosion the metal melted into the firing pin hole making a plug essentially. Ruger sent him a new slide and he loves it now. So we will see. But you pay and take your chances is for blackjack not firearms.
 

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If your pulling the trigger and nothing is happening for example you feel no tension on the trigger as you pull it to the rear then it sounds like your trigger is not resetting I had that problem with a Kahr P9. Ruger is great and you will more than likely have your gun back to you about 5 days from the day it is sent back.
 

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OK update time. Talked to Ruger tech, he says bad striker spring. Just bad luck I got one out of spec. He put fifty thru and said its right as rain now. So I asked him to put fifty more thru it and make sure I didn't get another "bad" spring. You know make sure. In the mail Monday, I'll have soon. Now I can try to trust it, maybe after a few hundred rounds thru I'll feel like its reliable. But man what a **** up for a new gun I think I've told 200 people about it. Signing off, somewhat satisfied, I guess. Maybe I should have got the glock but I love how this LC9s pro fits my hand.
 

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That's just the problem with mass-production.................some times you get a turkey!
I did with a p95 about 5-6 years ago................mag would drop after just 1-2 rounds. After that was fixed it would either stove-pipe or throw the round back in your face or not eject a round and feed another from the mag.:eek:

* fortunately Ruger is really good about taking care of their customers. Sent my p95 in on their dime and got back a perfect working pistol.....pushin' 2k rounds and never had a bit of trouble since!:D
 

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OK update time. Talked to Ruger tech, he says bad striker spring. Just bad luck I got one out of spec. He put fifty thru and said its right as rain now. So I asked him to put fifty more thru it and make sure I didn't get another "bad" spring. You know make sure. In the mail Monday, I'll have soon. Now I can try to trust it, maybe after a few hundred rounds thru I'll feel like its reliable. But man what a **** up for a new gun I think I've told 200 people about it. Signing off, somewhat satisfied, I guess. Maybe I should have got the glock but I love how this LC9s pro fits my hand.
Nothing mass produced is free from a defect now and then. If you think that a Glock is perfect and trouble free maybe you should visit the many Glock forums and check out the post about problems.
 

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Thanks for posting the update to this FTLDiver. I actually posted this same issue today before seeing your thread. Glad to know Ruger was responsive to this. Mine is on it's way to them now and I hope to have it back soon in perfect working order--love this little gun.
 

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Same problem here... A bit more info... If the gun is pointed up when I rack the slide - it fires normally. If the gun is pointed down when racking the slide... pulling the trigger produces no click, no fire, no joy.

This is a new gun.
Flow of events leading up to the problem is more interesting then the actual problem...

Day 1: Purchased Gun
Day 3: Went to range - Shot 150 rounds - no problems.
Day 4: Cleaned gun
Day 6: Went to range - Shot 100 rounds (no issues), about 20 rounds into the 3rd box, things started acting up:
1. 2 rounds never made it into the chamber
2. 1 round flip up, spun around and jammed in the ejection slot, stopping the rack from sliding closed... Oh... yes... the bullet actually spun around and was pointing at me while stuck 1/2 way out of the gun.
3. A few (successful) shots latter it it began have the failure to fire problem.
4. I tried my other magazine, same problem.

I must say, the idea of a bullet hitting the feed ramp wrong, causing it to flip up, flip over and jam (un-fired) in the top of the rack is pretty unsettling. But I guess that is an issue for another thread.

The problem to focus on here is the unable to fire problem.
 

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Same problem here... A bit more info... If the gun is pointed up when I rack the slide - it fires normally. If the gun is pointed down when racking the slide... pulling the trigger produces no click, no fire, no joy.

This is a new gun.
Flow of events leading up to the problem is more interesting then the actual problem...

Day 1: Purchased Gun
Day 3: Went to range - Shot 150 rounds - no problems.
Day 4: Cleaned gun
Day 6: Went to range - Shot 100 rounds (no issues), about 20 rounds into the 3rd box, things started acting up:
1. 2 rounds never made it into the chamber
2. 1 round flip up, spun around and jammed in the ejection slot, stopping the rack from sliding closed... Oh... yes... the bullet actually spun around and was pointing at me while stuck 1/2 way out of the gun.
3. A few (successful) shots latter it it began have the failure to fire problem.
4. I tried my other magazine, same problem.

I must say, the idea of a bullet hitting the feed ramp wrong, causing it to flip up, flip over and jam (un-fired) in the top of the rack is pretty unsettling. But I guess that is an issue for another thread.

The problem to focus on here is the unable to fire problem.
When the gun doesn't fire, is it fully in battery? When pointing down, perhaps gravity is aiding the recoil spring.

Did the "not firing" ever happen early on or just after the 250 rounds with no issues?

Are you pointing the pistol up while racking it to watch the round get chambered?

Are you slingshotting the slide?


Interesting, we're to focus on the not firing aspect but 50% of your post describes the stove pipe issues you are having....
 

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Tganks for responding...

None of the issues occurd during the 1st 300 rounds. Then it all started within 1 or 2 magazines.

I do not *slingshot* the rack. I hold onto it during both directions.

I'm going to take the gun back to store after work.
 

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Tganks for responding...

None of the issues occurd during the 1st 300 rounds. Then it all started within 1 or 2 magazines.

I do not *slingshot* the rack. I hold onto it during both directions.

I'm going to take the gun back to store after work.
That is your problem, I would guess.

Since you are holding on to it, it may not be going into battery.
 
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