[DrGonzo1699]

Hi everyone. I wrote a post earlier about problems with my lcp max. I returned it to the factory to fix the slider discoloration and ejection problems with live bullets. I'll be back soon, they fixed the termination problem but it continues with the extraction problems with live bullets and manual feeding problems. According to the repair notes, they changed the slide and the barrel, they also fired 30 rounds without a problem. I guess they never tried to extract a live round. If someone has solved this problem in lcp max please help, I don't want to have to go back.

 

[Redhawk100]

It looks like your extractor has engaged the rim of that round, so is it extraction or ejection that's the issue? If it is an ejection issue and the problem doesn't manifest during live fire, then it could be that ejection requires more vigorous cycling of the action. Try racking the slide harder when you manually try to eject a round.

 

[DrGonzo1699]

It looks like your extractor has engaged the rim of that round, so is it extraction or ejection that's the issue? If it is an ejection issue and the problem doesn't manifest during live fire, then it could be that ejection requires more vigorous cycling of the action. Try racking the slide harder when you manually try to eject a round.

Y
push this really hard and sometimes it ejects. It will never match the force that a shell reset does and in a stress situation if an ammo misses you should be ready to take out that dead round and keep going. I suspect that there is something else here since I have read a lot in forums about this problem but I can't find a clear answer

 

[Redhawk100]

Y
push this really hard and sometimes it ejects. It will never match the force that a shell reset does and in a stress situation if an ammo misses you should be ready to take out that dead round and keep going. I suspect that there is something else here since I have read a lot in forums about this problem but I can't find a clear answer

It sounds like a short or misaligned ejector, then. And if your extractor has play between the claw and rim, that could also cause ejection problems. Given that you have the slide locked back with that round still facing forward indicates one of those two issues. That round should be gone by the time the slide is back far enough to lock.

 

[DrGonzo1699]

 

[DrGonzo1699]

it looks like the extractor nail bites into the bullet or there is a small trench in front of the edge of the nail

 

[Redhawk100]

That trench looks like it's there to gently guide the cartridge rim upwards and under the extractor claw.

When you pull the slide back slowly, do you see the extracted round even start to tilt out to the right at all?

 

[DrGonzo1699]

look bro

 

[Redhawk100]

View attachment 191745 View attachment 191746 look bro

I adjusted the light balance and sharpened things up to get a better look at the contact between your extractor claw and the rim. If I am seeing what it looks like what I'm seeing, then there is space between the claw and your rim. With such a slight angle on that round with the slide all the way back, I can't help but think that you have either a long extractor assembly or a short ejector. If those components were as they should be, then the claw should be rested firmly against the case rim with such a slight angle on that round.

 

[DrGonzo1699]

I'll send you a better screenshot, but tomorrow I'm going to my local gunsmith to look into the problem further. It seems strange to me that they change everything and continue with the same problems

 

[Redhawk100]

It seems strange to me that they change everything and continue with the same problems

Indeed.

 

[JFoster48386]

How long is that ammo? Have you tried round ball?

Jon.

 

[Chowda]

My Sig P365-380 wouldn't feed or eject ammo with that shape bullets very well such as XTP bullets. It would work with more rounded bullets like the Speer Gold Dots and all fmj perfectly. I polished the feed ramp with 600 grit sandpaper and it has worked with everything since the polishing. I've read that some 380s are finicky with the ammo types.

 

[Druban]

Is it just that particular box or lot of ammo that you’re having this problem with?
I know some 9mm pistols* are very particular about the cartridge length and others will happily eat any size cartridge. Often there’s a compromise where bullet length is increased to make up for the mass lost in the hollow point, possibly increasing cartridge length to the maximum allowed.
Just an off the cuff theory, looking at the shoulder on that bullet.

*I know this is a .380, I’m just talking about the caliber I am familiar with.

 

[Jack Ruger]

We have had a few failure to eject w our LCP Max. I will say on those occasions that I can pull back on the slide w the force necessary to get it to extract. My wife has no shot at it.

It has primarily been ball ammo and not JHP. I have not had to use a tool to do it, but it is quite a short racking to get it to pop. It feels like it's only moving a 1/16".

 

[DrGonzo1699]

I have the same problems with hornady XTP and federal fmj. Actualization, today in the morning the slides lost color again.
To anyone who buys this little 380. Don't send it back to the factory for repair, it will come back the same, even if they change the slider. take a trusted gunsmith and solve the problem yourself I think it would be better

 

[Powerman]

My wife and I occasionally carry our lcp max, how many rounds have you put through it. We also have had some ejection issues but the more rounds put through have helped fix them.

 

[Mr. Big]

I have the same gun and ammo. Small pocket pistol can be ammo sensitive. You must really pull the slide back hard and push down with gun hand to remove unfired ammo from chamber. What you are doing is trying to duplicate the force of slide moving back after firing gun. Not much gun to hold on to. Also, your hand over ejection port will stop ammo from being ejected. It is just the way it is. If you are not comfortable with gun sell it. You will need to run 200 rounds through gun to break it in. After 2-300 rounds you should be just fine.

 

[Argee1950]

I adjusted the light balance and sharpened things up to get a better look at the contact between your extractor claw and the rim. If I am seeing what it looks like what I'm seeing, then there is space between the claw and your rim. With such a slight angle on that round with the slide all the way back, I can't help but think that you have either a long extractor assembly or a short ejector. If those components were as they should be, then the claw should be rested firmly against the case rim with such a slight angle on that round.
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It appears that the nose of the projectile is coming in contact with the slide and forcing it back so there is a gap. I'm beginning to wonder if the extractor might be to long.

 

[Argee1950]

It seems strange to me that they change everything and continue with the same problems

Probably because they don't have the experienced staff of adequate manpower to address the issue.