@Nomadic Paladin is spot on. Besides that I will add that most all modern polymer pistols on the market I've seen lately use a "combat" sight picture at 7-15 yards. It seems to be the norm these days.
LCP MAX Sight Problems - Shooting low and to the left
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Update - I have reached a solution. Hopefully this will help others. I’m not interested in hearing anybody’s patronizing comments as this is a known issue with plenty of evidence all over this forum. Many other LCP MAX owners are dealing with this. I’ve never had a sub compact behave this way out of the box in almost 2 decades of proficient shooting, including live-fire drills, defensive handgun courses, etc.
I used gorilla glue to place strips of plastic from zip ties on the rear sight (including in the notch). I then added some paint. Now when I aim, the front sight is only buried about 1/2 as deep as it originally was. I can use a 6 o’clock (lollipop) hold and get right on target.
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And this pic below is how terrible it was before adjusting. Even with switching to combat picture method of aiming. I finally got bullseye after significant holdover. This was disheartening. I really don’t think any of you skeptics here understand how off it was.
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And this is how it shoots now, with 10 rounds at 10 yards, standing, firing at a moderate rate. May be just a tad high. Might dremel it back down just a hair, but I like this so much better and now feel that it is a viable defensive handgun that hits where I point it.
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Thankfully I am not having any malfunctions with failure of the slide to lock on an empty mag, or failure to go in to battery like some others have with the max. It’s running very smooth.
Done and done. Have a great day everyone.
I used gorilla glue to place strips of plastic from zip ties on the rear sight (including in the notch). I then added some paint. Now when I aim, the front sight is only buried about 1/2 as deep as it originally was. I can use a 6 o’clock (lollipop) hold and get right on target.
And this pic below is how terrible it was before adjusting. Even with switching to combat picture method of aiming. I finally got bullseye after significant holdover. This was disheartening. I really don’t think any of you skeptics here understand how off it was.
And this is how it shoots now, with 10 rounds at 10 yards, standing, firing at a moderate rate. May be just a tad high. Might dremel it back down just a hair, but I like this so much better and now feel that it is a viable defensive handgun that hits where I point it.
Thankfully I am not having any malfunctions with failure of the slide to lock on an empty mag, or failure to go in to battery like some others have with the max. It’s running very smooth.
Done and done. Have a great day everyone.
FWIW I am not a gun expert not even a big enthusiast but I do have to carry in New York City for my business as I have been for the past 26 years.
I recently upgraded my Sigsauer P230 to the Ruger LCP Max and took it to the range to familiarize myself with it to find the same thing as a lot of other people have and left and down, sometimes excessively.
I have the targeting tool called "Itarget" you load a 380laser round into the chamber and it fires at a target and momentarily flashes a red laser which registers onto your phone and you could see in virtual reality how your shot would've landed. (you can also see it visually for a fraction of a second. The thing about shooting a laser down a barrel is there is zero error it's a laser can't be to the left can't be to the right where the barrel is pointing is where the laser flashes keep that in mind.
I set the target up in my house and I will attach a photo to show that I was shooting my Ruger at 50 feet and I grouped it within 6 inches when not firing a live round.
Not posting this to argue with anyone or disagree with them I am actually hoping that this might help one of you guys figure out why live firing is throwing so far down and left "for many people." Which would actually be helpful to me.
Clearly I'm not pushing the barrel down when I live fire I'm not pulling it to the left I'm holding it steady with the laser as I was at the Range.
Can the design of the gun push the barrel down onto the left when it's fired even know the trigger was pulled when it was perfectly straight????
I recently upgraded my Sigsauer P230 to the Ruger LCP Max and took it to the range to familiarize myself with it to find the same thing as a lot of other people have and left and down, sometimes excessively.
I have the targeting tool called "Itarget" you load a 380laser round into the chamber and it fires at a target and momentarily flashes a red laser which registers onto your phone and you could see in virtual reality how your shot would've landed. (you can also see it visually for a fraction of a second. The thing about shooting a laser down a barrel is there is zero error it's a laser can't be to the left can't be to the right where the barrel is pointing is where the laser flashes keep that in mind.
I set the target up in my house and I will attach a photo to show that I was shooting my Ruger at 50 feet and I grouped it within 6 inches when not firing a live round.
Not posting this to argue with anyone or disagree with them I am actually hoping that this might help one of you guys figure out why live firing is throwing so far down and left "for many people." Which would actually be helpful to me.
Clearly I'm not pushing the barrel down when I live fire I'm not pulling it to the left I'm holding it steady with the laser as I was at the Range.
Can the design of the gun push the barrel down onto the left when it's fired even know the trigger was pulled when it was perfectly straight????
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I was experiencing the low-and-left issue myself (after 150 rounds and even within 3 yards). Called Ruger and they sent me a new slide and barrel. The shooting left issue was resolved*, but POI was still low. I experimented with different sight alignments, and found the one shown here to best result for POA=POI out to 7 or 8 yards. I situate the horizontal diameter of the front site dot with the top of the rear sight, and cover the target with the front sight dot. There's probably a name for it, but I just call it a "post-high combat" sight picture.
*I did note that I still pull a few left when slow firing, and tend to be most accurate when rapid firing. I'm pretty sure I'm anticipating too much when slow firing.
I've only put 50 rds through the new barrel, and I'm finding that I can get a good group on-target out to 25 feet or so. Right now, I wouldn't count on my accuracy past that. I'm ok with that, eventhough there are some folks that can hit 30+ yards out. I'm considering this my "get off me" gun.
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