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Seems like they are conservative-in the Corps, we trained to hit a target 100-200 pounds with the M14-.308--open sights---and it was deemed effective enough-some could do the job at 1000. I don't shoot with a scope, but I've had friends make kills at 300 yds with one-and let wounded get away at 75---poor shot placement. I've noticed lots of pooh-poohing of small light calibers but seen more deer brought home with .243 and below than .06.
 
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