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I have been reading how some really love using Mobil 1 10W-30 synthetic on their automatics for lub. In the past I have thought a purpose developed product like gun oils or grease would be the best. Years ago a friend used engine oil, probably Penns. Z-7, on the outside of his guns and had rust problems. Since then I have read that the detergents in engine oils can cause problems for gun metal regarding rust. I use Rem Oil and CLP.

Anyone have any reason why Mobil 1 is better formulated for a gun than our purpose gun lubs.?

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I have been reading how some really love using Mobil 1 10W-30 synthetic on their automatics for lub. In the past I have thought a purpose developed product like gun oils or grease would be the best. Years ago a friend used engine oil, probably Penns. Z-7, on the outside of his guns and had rust problems. Since then I have read that the detergents in engine oils can cause problems for gun metal regarding rust. I use Rem Oil and CLP.

Anyone have any reason why Mobil 1 is better formulated for a gun than our purpose gun lubs.?

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Any type of high viscocity lubricant will collect dirt and accelerate wear on friction surfaces. A dry teflon or graphite lubricant works better, in my opinion. I use a product called "Slide". It's a release agent for commercial snow removal equipment that dries to an ultra thin, slick coating and is water proof.
 

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My take ... use automotive products on cars, home products for the home, and gun products for guns. All lubrication and cleaning products are formulated for their intended use so take advantage of modern technology.
 

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Iowegan, this is my view thus far. Thanks. Would like to hear how it is better or let this one go to the fairy tale box.
 

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Iowegan,
I like your way of thinking
 

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Hi,

I have been using several non firearms related items for firearms maintenance for years and with great results. I use (gasp) WD-40, Brake clean, Carburetor cleaner, Kroil, PB blaster, Mobil 1, Marvel Mystery Oil and who knows what else.

I use common sense when using them. Some are hard on rubber or plastic, some will soften or remove bluing, some will soften or remove finish from wood and or synthetic stocks. I use them for what they are good for, and use firearms related items for what these others don't.

I also buy my corncob and walnut tumbler media from the pet store. I know, but what can I say.

And before someone helps me out by telling how bad WD-40 is on guns, I know all about it. Heard all of the problems it causes and have been warned. I use it as a cleaning aid, it is all removed and replaced with oil.

This is not a recommendation to anyone to change what they use for their firearms just a post saying that I have had good luck using other products.

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Any type of high viscocity lubricant will collect dirt and accelerate wear on friction surfaces.
If that were true, wouldn't it do the same thing to your car's engine?

Any lubricating oil will lubricate. Everyone will argue about which one(s) is(are) the best. As long as you keep your firearms relatively clean and lubricate them per the manufacturers suggestions, I don't think it matters a whole lot what you use. IMHO, of course. BTW, I use product intended for use on firearms. Usually Breakfree CLP or Militec-1. I want to try some Eezox.
 

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I use Mobil 1 Synth grease on my shotguns (hook, hinge pin, any bearing surface, etc) but I will not use a auto grade oil on my firearms.

Note: the mobil 1 synth grease was the only stuff that didn't cook off the guns when a group of friends whent to SA last year which is why I use it for very limited applications.

I like Iowegan's line of thought..... use the stuff on what it was designed for.
 

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If that were true, wouldn't it do the same thing to your car's engine?
It does, have you ever had a leaky seal on your engine? Dirt and debris collects on the layer of oil, then more oil, then more dirt and debris. Builds up to quite a mess. :)

Marvel Mystery Oil contains a rust inhibitor, would it be good to lightly coat metal on your firearm, as a rust preventative?

Or do they make something better? (as I'm sure they do)
 

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There certainly are different schools of thought on this topic, and I think I have tried them all over the last 30 years. The dry lube route never worked for me. There may be situations where it is the best way to go, but i never have encountered that situation. Mobile 1 or Amzoil worked great, I have no problem using synthetic motor oil. But as already mentioned there are plenty of dedicated weapons lubes out there that work, and I beleive these give you an edge in rust protection. My favorite is Weaponshield, but there are several to pick from. I dont like Remoil at all, I think it is way to light. You want something with a little more body or viscosity. Do a little research, pick one, use it , dont lose any sleep. I will say that I beleive as far as lubrication goes, you will not notice much differance between the major players, but you may see varying degrees of rust protection. None being bad, just some better. Again I think Weaponshield for all around is hard to beat.
 

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It does, have you ever had a leaky seal on your engine? Dirt and debris collects on the layer of oil, then more oil, then more dirt and debris. Builds up to quite a mess. :)

Marvel Mystery Oil contains a rust inhibitor, would it be good to lightly coat metal on your firearm, as a rust preventative?

Or do they make something better? (as I'm sure they do)
Marvel mystery oil might work better in an engine then a gun. It is too light for a gun lubricant, i think it would probably evaporate and run off if used for gun storage and i would doubt its lubricating properties. Its intended to be added to gas and oil not as a stand-alone lubricant.
I wouldnt use MMO for long term gun storage unless i had nothing else. In which case, i would fill a container or a zip loc bag and drop the whole gun into it, and cross my fingers that i wouldn't pull out a rusted hunk of metal later.
 

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Using Mobil 1 (5W-30) on Firearms

In my humble opinion, after shooting actively for 45 years, I prefer Mobil 1 5W-30 Extended Performance "Advanced Full Synthetic" motor oil to any of my dozen products made for guns. I have at least a dozen cans and bottles of everything from CLP to Rem Oil. Like most of you, I have tried all of the products, but when I switched to Mobil 1 I noticed a difference. No more build-up, rust, or mottled appearance to any of my 12 guns. As an experiment I buffed off all traces of bluing from my 1949 Remington Model 510 Targetmaster (my first firearm) on my bench grinder. After wiping it down with rubbing alcohol and/or acetone (I use both to prepare surfaces for finishing) I applied a thin coat of Mobil 1 to all surfaces that I could reach, let it sit overnight and then I wiped it off with a lint-free cotton swab (round or square cosmetic fluffs from a pharmacy work great) until all that I could feel was a slight lubrication to all metal parts of the rifle. I then put it back in the gun safe which is dehumidified by an electric rod about 18 inches long. It has been stored this way for over 2 years without reapplication and when I shoot the rifle I just run a bore snake through it with Hoppe's No. 9 solvent before the brush part, and about 1/2 teaspoon of Mobil 1 on the bore snake area behind the brushes. Before I return the rifle to the safe, I wipe the exterior down with a slightly lubed (Mobil 1 of course, LOL) cotton swab, followed by a dry swab and put it back in the gun safe. After two years I would have expected the shiny (it looks like a stainless steel gun now) finish to show signs of rust or some sort of discoloration, but to my amazement it looks just like it did when I first removed the bluing and applied the Mobil 1 in 2015. After this experience I coated my 1941 Colt 1911A1, Colt Army Model 1917/DA 45 (Both gov't issued WWI/WWII) and all of my modern firearms. Since I switched to Mobil 1 there is lower maintenance on all 12 of my guns, and when I compete in Combat or long distance events and really fire a large amount of ammo through my guns, I noticed a big difference in how easy it is to clean my guns after a day at the range. Since some of my guns are collector's items I don't even touch them with my bare hands unless necessary. I use latex or nitrile exam gloves and even keep a box in the gun safe. As a retired Deputy Sheriff/Paramedic/Registered Nurse I was used to wearing them, but at first it was hard to get used to. By not touching the metal with my bare fingers it keeps acids/oils/etc. from tarnishing my treasures...
I hope that post is helpful, especially to newcomers. I have taught about a hundred people how to shoot safely, and I enjoy that.
Take Care and have a good weekend!
 

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Been using Mobil 1 synthetic on my guns ( Handguns, rifles, shotguns) for years. They've all been used extensively and are all in fine shape. I just fill up a couple "eye drop" bottles and one Qt of Mobil will last at least a year :)
 

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Try Eezox and forget the rest!
i feel the same way about Ballistol ;)

i remember my dad using some vaseline on the slide rails in a pinch on one of his Taurus's - it survived, i guess the main thing is having some type of lub on the firearms you're using
 

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I've used synthetic motor oil for years and will continue to use it as long as it works for me. When I first got into firearms - roughly 50 years ago - I would use 3-in-one oil with no adverse effects. I say continue using what ever works for you. BTW, some people still use FrogLube. :p
 

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Talk about resurrection .... this thread is 9 years old!
 

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Talk about resurrection .... this thread is 9 years old!
Not surprising - it’s one of those “undead” topics that refuse to die.

To me, it seems that the savings realized by using motor oil (which has detergents and polymerization inhibitors) instead of gun oil would be minuscule. I’ve used motor oil for gun lube when I was deployed and couldn’t get regular gun oils supplied, but even the Army doesn’t recommend using motor oil except in an emergency.

I will confess that I use automotive bearing grease in small amounts, but for routine cleaning and lubrication, I use products made for use in firearms.

Obviously, not everyone agrees, thus the topic continues to roam the internet.


Jim
 
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