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I picked up a Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 recently. Its first trip to the range was for a 50 round barrel break in and initial zero.

The second trip was to start ammo selection. I'm starting with 168gr because it seems like a good place to begin. I tried the following:

Federal Gold Medal GM308M
Sig Sauer OTM Match
Hornady Black A-MAX
Fiocchi Matchking Exacta

The top 2 targets are Federal
The middle target is Sig
Bottom left target is Hornady
Bottom right is Fiocchi

All groups are at 100yds. 10 round groups, from bipod & monopod, seated at bench. I throughly cleaned the barrel between groups.

The flyer on the bottom left target was a known cause, the bench was bumped as I squeezed the trigger...

This is my first precision rifle and I have a lot to learn. I am joining a different range next month so I can access a 300yd range, my current range is only 100yd. I will practice, and hope to take the precision rifle class at the Sig Sauer Academy next year.

I shot the groups in the order that I listed then. I will repeat the test in reverse order next week to see if I got sloppy or the Fiocchi was that bad.


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First, welcome to the forum. Just curious, but why did you choose the .308? Have you considered trying Hornady’s precision hunter line of ammo?
 

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Mark204, Not everyone plans to shoot at a gazillion yards like you do so a 308 is an excellent choice for 500 yards or so. US military uses 308s out to 800 yards with excellent success but they sure don't use standard hunting ammo.
 

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Enjoy shooting your new rifle. You're going to enjoy the 300yd range. Keep us posted on your progress.
 

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First, welcome to the forum. Just curious, but why did you choose the .308? Have you considered trying Hornady’s precision hunter line of ammo?
Makes no sense to buy match grade long distance hunting ammo if he does not hunt.

Some of that factory ELD-X ammo is crazy expensive per round. Almost just as bad as Berger and Nosler top tier in cost per round.

My advice is if you shoot 200 rounds or more of medium rifle or large rifle in a year, it pays to reload if you don't go overboard on the equipment and have the circumstances and attention to detail.

I can pay for a set of reloading dies in only 100 rounds of match ammo by the savings.
 

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That is a nice looking set up. I got the 308 a few years ago. The max I shoot on my land is 750, I could shoot further but have mainly been using 500-550. I use the Hornady Precision Hunter ammo... the ELD-X 178gr. I shoot the 12x20 IDPA steel targets and it is hard to miss. I also shoot the cheapo PPU 145s and they work fine, but don't smack the steel near as hard. I have the Specwar 762 that I rotate with my ar10tac20. I go through a lot of bottled water on my suppressor... I need to invest in a mirage cover.

I didn't get the 6.5cm cause of barrel life and I'm not going to shoot out as far as the cm is capable of. Not that I wouldn't want one. lol
 

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First, welcome to the forum. Just curious, but why did you choose the .308? Have you considered trying Hornady’s precision hunter line of ammo?
Thank you for the welcome.
I chose .308 for a few reasons. One is that I carried an M-60 in the military, so I have a nostalgic fondness for 7.62. I also have another .308, so commonality of ammo is nice.
Clubs in my area don't offer extended range shooting. The 300yrd range I'm joining is close, but to shoot at 600yds, I have to drive well over an hour, 1000yds is over 2 hours away, so I don't think I need a more capable long range round. I'll mostly shoot 300 or less but once or twice a year.

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Mark204, Not everyone plans to shoot at a gazillion yards like you do so a 308 is an excellent choice for 500 yards or so. US military uses 308s out to 800 yards with excellent success but they sure don't use standard hunting ammo.
Iowegan, were you trying to read my mind, lol? Distance didn’t even factor into my question, I actually was curious.

As far as Hornady’s precision hunter line goes it’s not even close to standard hunting ammo. I know guys who shoot it in various caliber with unbelievable accuracy at extended distances. One in particular has run it out 1600yds in 6.5 Creed. I purchased a couple of boxes just to have some brass for loading and I was pulling 1/2” groups at 200. It’s not your run of the mill hunting ammo, IMO.
 

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That is a great looking rifle. They are addicting also at that price point. I have a Gen I and reload for it. I don't have all the specs dialed in but use whatever ammo you can afford to shoot. I reload mine with 150 grain FMJBT over CFE223 and do just fine for my needs. I have yet to get out to 300 yards with it but will soon.
 

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That is a great looking rifle. They are addicting also at that price point. I have a Gen I and reload for it. I don't have all the specs dialed in but use whatever ammo you can afford to shoot. I reload mine with 150 grain FMJBT over CFE223 and do just fine for my needs. I have yet to get out to 300 yards with it but will soon.
Thank you, I plan to get into reloading in the next few years. I'm saving and cleaning all my brass in the meantime. I've been finding Fed Gold Medal for $17 a box delivered, so, I'm buying a bunch of that. Will experiment with 175gr next I think.

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Went back to the range after work. Shoot the same 10 round, 100yd groups from the bipod, seated. Same ammo at the same targets as before except in opposite order, started with Fiocchi on the bottom left. The Federal gold medal was still the best of the 4 (top 2 targets). I only bought the one box of Fiocchi and I won't buy more...


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welcome from down under & nice set up and your groups look just fine for factory ammo and yes Federal gold medal is reported a good match for RPR
 

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Those are great groups. I too considered distance and not having access to anything longer than 100 yards unless I drove 3 hours meant I was staying with 308. I ended up buying a POF P308 though rather than a bolt gun. Tightest I've gotten so far was a 0.554" 5 shot group with FGMM. I've also tried the Magtech Sniper which also uses 168gr SMK bullets and the results are comparable.. I've heard good things about PPU as well but haven't yet tried that.

Only problem is the gun is over-gassed even with the adjustable gas block, especially with the suppressor. I'm waiting on some tungsten weights to increase buffer weight from 6 to 8.5 oz.


My last 5 shot group yesterday was shot without really trying. Did have 1 flier as you can see below from when I yanked the trigger but otherwise would have stayed around a half inch.


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Amstel77, that is a nice group and rifle too. I thought about a semi instead of a bolt, but decided on the bolt. I'm looking forward to getting ATF approval so I can suppress mine. They just cashed the check, so I'm in for a long wait.
I'm going to change to 5 round groups instead of 10 soon...

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Thank you, I plan to get into reloading in the next few years. I'm saving and cleaning all my brass in the meantime. I've been finding Fed Gold Medal for $17 a box delivered, so, I'm buying a bunch of that. Will experiment with 175gr next I think.

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You'll be happy when you do and wish you'd started reloading sooner. :D
 

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Amstel77, that is a nice group and rifle too. I thought about a semi instead of a bolt, but decided on the bolt. I'm looking forward to getting ATF approval so I can suppress mine. They just cashed the check, so I'm in for a long wait.
I'm going to change to 5 round groups instead of 10 soon...

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Good luck on the suppressor. I have played the game a few times and these days, always seem to have one "in process." When you call the ATF to check the status, be advised the access for the customer service people has changed so all they can tell you is that it is in process. They used to tell you what stage it was in, when it went to the FBI, etc. But plan on a year. The one I have in process now, the check was cashed on 11/29/18. When I called last week, it was still in process.

On the point of this thread, nice rifle and good shooting. Good luck with handloading. I think you will find it a satisfying expansion of your shooting-related activities.
 

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Mark204, Not everyone plans to shoot at a gazillion yards like you do so a 308 is an excellent choice for 500 yards or so. US military uses 308s out to 800 yards with excellent success but they sure don't use standard hunting ammo.
Isn't the .308 good for about 1100 yards before going trans-sonic?



That is a nice looking set up. I got the 308 a few years ago. The max I shoot on my land is 750, I could shoot further but have mainly been using 500-550. I use the Hornady Precision Hunter ammo... the ELD-X 178gr. I shoot the 12x20 IDPA steel targets and it is hard to miss. I also shoot the cheapo PPU 145s and they work fine, but don't smack the steel near as hard. I have the Specwar 762 that I rotate with my ar10tac20. I go through a lot of bottled water on my suppressor... I need to invest in a mirage cover.
Are those PPUs FMJ or HPBT/OTM?
 
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