[Black Hog Down]

Howa is going to put out a 7.62x39 bolt gun next year. I don't love their synthetic stock so I think I will get just a barreled action and throw on a Boyd's laminate stock.

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[ditto1958]

Have you considered a CZ 527? Hickok45 has an excellent video on YouTube on it.

 

[deerhunter357]

Never dealt with howa products but sounds like a cool rifle . A true short action like my 77/357 ! What is the problem with their stocks that you don't like ?

 

[gqucool]

Howa makes a very good bolt action rifle!!!

 

[Neon Horse]

Cool! I'm always intrigued by bolts in that caliber.

 

[Black Hog Down]

The CZ is a good gun but I like a smooth bore. No sights. Plus I am a Howa fan. Ruger would be my preference but it doesn't seem like they are gonna offer one... right now.

 

[Black Hog Down]

And I have no problem with the How's stock but I have hare bad experiences (savage bmag) with synthetic.

 

[ExArmy11b]

I'm going against the grain and saying that iron sights are a must for a 7.62x39 bolt rifle.........sure, allow for optics to be mounted but a set of basic irons are almost a requirement.

We're talking about a round roughly the same ballistically as a 30-30, no one is asking for 30-30 lever guns without sights. 7.62x39 is a 300 yard round, at maximum.

 

[cptpoly]

There are Ruger M77 Mk2s "out there". They also made the Hawkeye compact in 7.62x39. I have a Skeleton stocked Mk2 in that caliber--It's a great little rifle!

 

[RJM52]

I'm going against the grain and saying that iron sights are a must for a 7.62x39 bolt rifle.........sure, allow for optics to be mounted but a set of basic irons are almost a requirement.

We're talking about a round roughly the same ballistically as a 30-30, no one is asking for 30-30 lever guns without sights. 7.62x39 is a 300 yard round, at maximum.

Hate to disagree but a 7.62x39 bolt gun as far as accuracy and long range ability is far above any 30-30 made. I regularly shoot mine out to 400 yards. And I have yet to see a scoped 30-30 hold MOA let alone the sub-moa grops my guns get...

Savage Scout at 400 yards...

Ruger 77MKII Light Rifle 100 yards..

Ruger 77MKII at 100...

Bob

 

[Black Hog Down]

I think the reputation for inaccuracy comes from cheap AKs. The round itself is accurate when fired from a quality rifle.

 

[Warboar]

Hate to disagree but a 7.62x39 bolt gun as far as accuracy and long range ability is far above any 30-30 made. I regularly shoot mine out to 400 yards. And I have yet to see a scoped 30-30 hold MOA let alone the sub-moa grops my guns get...

Savage Scout at 400 yards...

Ruger 77MKII Light Rifle 100 yards..

Ruger 77MKII at 100...

Bob

I know of one 30-30 that shot better than MOA groups. The model 788 made by Remington. With a bolt action rifle the 30-30 can use spire point or match bullets. It transforms the cartridge into a whole other animal.

 

[Black Hog Down]

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[eastbank]

i own and shoot two rem 788,s and i can run 150 nosler BT bullets right up at 2500fps. i have not shot them to 400 yds, but i have killed ground hogs at close to 300 yds with no problems. eastbank.

 

[Black Hog Down]

There is a NIB Ruger M77 compact 7.62 on Gunbroker. It's gonna close north of $900. Too rich for my blood.

 

[Black Hog Down]

Correction. Closed at $881.

 

[bwinters]

Howa has been makng the weatherby vanguard for decades and it has a great reputation. I owuld try it.