Sounds like a really fun day. Nothing better than shooting with one of the family. I think it is pretty typical that light bullets shoot low. At least in handguns anyway. The theory is that lighter bullets usually exit the barrel quicker and the gun doesn't rise quite as high from recoil before the bullet exits. (Someone who really knows what they are talking about may be able to provide a better answer.)
Non-Typical Range Report
This will not be a typical bunzo range report, just a few comments on the pleasantries of shooting. I got work to do around the house, but Tuesday was such a nice day I decided to give one of the boys a call and go to the range.
We took his M77 Ruger Mark II in 7mm Rem Mag, my Ruger #1 in .270 Weatherby Mag, the new Browning High Wall in .22-250, and of course, my ever present Ruger P90.
The main reason for the trip was just for the fun of getting out on a beautiful day, but there was more; the #1 has been shooting erratic, I had put together some loads for the 7mm, and the P90 had been shooting low. The Browning was just for the pure joy of shooting a dead nuts accurate classic.
We compared my 7mm loads to the factory loads, and mine were shooting about 8” lower. The main difference is the factory loads were 175 gr and mine were 160 gr Sierra Game King boat tails. It seems to me the lighter boolits should hit higher, not lower. Gunna scratch my head over that one for a while.
After a little tinkering on the forend hangar, the #1 is starting to produce something resembling a group. I put one of those Hick’s doohickeys on it, supposedly to increase the accuracy, and then had a hard time tuning it. It has to be tuned and correlated with a load it likes until the right formula can be stumbled on. That’s what you get for fixing things that aren’t broken. I was hitting a 1” bullseye from 400 yards at the last War Party (an anual shooting event with friends)I went to, but I had to go and “fix” it! I hope I can get it back to its original state!
The Browning was a sheer joy to shoot! It doesn’t beat you to death no matter how many times you squeeze ‘em off and you always know it’s going to hit exactly where it’s supposed to hit.
I had to get the boy started on handguns. He is going to junior college to try and get a job in law enforcement, but has no experience with handguns, so what better way to start out than with the trusted P90?
Of course, you have to compensate for it hitting low until that can get that sorted out, but in the meantime, as long as the point of aim is compensated for, it shoots without flaw or effort. I’m not going to worry about trying to fix it until I get the some Trijicon night sights ordered and installed.
After the range work, I took him to the A&W down the road a ways for chili-cheese dogs, onion rings, and root beer. All in all, a very good day! And the lunch didn’t even give me heartburn!
We took his M77 Ruger Mark II in 7mm Rem Mag, my Ruger #1 in .270 Weatherby Mag, the new Browning High Wall in .22-250, and of course, my ever present Ruger P90.
The main reason for the trip was just for the fun of getting out on a beautiful day, but there was more; the #1 has been shooting erratic, I had put together some loads for the 7mm, and the P90 had been shooting low. The Browning was just for the pure joy of shooting a dead nuts accurate classic.
We compared my 7mm loads to the factory loads, and mine were shooting about 8” lower. The main difference is the factory loads were 175 gr and mine were 160 gr Sierra Game King boat tails. It seems to me the lighter boolits should hit higher, not lower. Gunna scratch my head over that one for a while.
After a little tinkering on the forend hangar, the #1 is starting to produce something resembling a group. I put one of those Hick’s doohickeys on it, supposedly to increase the accuracy, and then had a hard time tuning it. It has to be tuned and correlated with a load it likes until the right formula can be stumbled on. That’s what you get for fixing things that aren’t broken. I was hitting a 1” bullseye from 400 yards at the last War Party (an anual shooting event with friends)I went to, but I had to go and “fix” it! I hope I can get it back to its original state!
The Browning was a sheer joy to shoot! It doesn’t beat you to death no matter how many times you squeeze ‘em off and you always know it’s going to hit exactly where it’s supposed to hit.
I had to get the boy started on handguns. He is going to junior college to try and get a job in law enforcement, but has no experience with handguns, so what better way to start out than with the trusted P90?
Of course, you have to compensate for it hitting low until that can get that sorted out, but in the meantime, as long as the point of aim is compensated for, it shoots without flaw or effort. I’m not going to worry about trying to fix it until I get the some Trijicon night sights ordered and installed.
After the range work, I took him to the A&W down the road a ways for chili-cheese dogs, onion rings, and root beer. All in all, a very good day! And the lunch didn’t even give me heartburn!
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+1 Now that's what I call "quality time"...
You are right about the lighter bullets Rman. About 20 years ago I bought some of those plastic bullets you can shoot in the house into a coupla empty boxes with just the large primer for a charge. They shot about a foot low at around 10 feet. Some time way back I bought a .38 S&W that was from England I think and it was modified to a .38 spec. and it shot way low. I think Bunzos hand gun problem, shooting low could be helped by using heavier bullets
I don’t reload .45acp and I already use 230gr boolits. So far, I simply compensate by changing the sight picture; I just put the white dot on the front sight over the target and fire. I fugure this is as good a reason as I'll ever get!
I am going to order a set Trijicon night sights for it and after those are installed I’ll worry about it more.
I am going to order a set Trijicon night sights for it and after those are installed I’ll worry about it more.
I was really talking about why your 7mm loads were shooting lower than the factory ones. Can you order the Trijicon sights by height, or are they the same as factory. It sounds like the factory front is too high.
bunzo, have you tried any of thoses loads for your 22-250 yet?
2400: No I haven’t yet; I still have to get some dies. I went into the local shop and they didn’t have any in stock, so I’ll either have to make a trip down to Cabela’s or order on line.
The way things are going, I’ll probably have to order on line because the Holidays are already starting to keep us busy.
The way things are going, I’ll probably have to order on line because the Holidays are already starting to keep us busy.
I thought I try a set of Hornady dies for mine. After loading about 800 rounds with them I'll give them a thumbs up.quote:Originally posted by bunzo351
2400: No I haven’t yet; I still have to get some dies. I went into the local shop and they didn’t have any in stock, so I’ll either have to make a trip down to Cabela’s or order on line.
I also will have to get some 52 gr Sierra BTHPs in addition to the dies. I have the powder and I’m not too sure about the brass.
I've been using Nosler brass lately, it's great.quote:Originally posted by bunzo351
I also will have to get some 52 gr Sierra BTHPs in addition to the dies. I have the powder and I’m not too sure about the brass.
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