[JohnnyDollar]

I agree with this. It would not be against the law to simply call and state you saw someone carrying a firearm. It would make it illegal if you stated they were brandishing the firearm or some similar offense and they weren’t. But it’s not a false statement to just say you saw someone carrying if you did.

Brandishing, again another grey area....

Definition may vary by state, but
In Texas:
".....when a gun owner points a weapon at or shows a weapon to a person in a public place in an attempt to get the person's attention or cause the person to feel fear or alarm"

There is a lady that calls the sheriff anytime she sees her neighbor walking near her property or along the easement on the farm road in front of her house with a gun.
She believes he is only doing it to intimidate her.
- I believe she really believes this, most everyone thinks she's nuts at this point.

She posts about it on our county Facebook group complaining that the sheriffs office is not doing anything to stop him.
Is he brandishing?
So far the sheriffs office doesn't seem to think so, although they have been out to talk to the guy.

I have a friend that ONLY Open Carries his 1911. He told me he does it to piss of liberals.
Even though it's in a holster, it kinda sounds like the definition of brandishing.

 

[Sr40ken]

I guess I need to call the sheriff every time a car goes down the road.

 

[Corndog]

As some may be aware, I was dumb enough to volunteer to be King of the HOA. We are a rural to semi-rural neighborhood of hobby farms. Five to 20 acre lots. Several people have impromptu shooting ranges within my kingdom and also neighboring properties.

One of the neighborhood Karens called the Sheriff (whom I coincidentally know from his game warden days). She invited him to our annual HOA meeting to complain about shooting. The Sheriff smiles and listens intently….she complains about noise and safety. I was watching the neighbors faces for agreement.

Sheriff lets her finish then cites our county laws allowing discharge of a firearm for any legal purposes anywhere within the county, providing it is outside and not within 100 feet of a dwelling. He then gives Karen his card and told her until she had property damage, animal injuries, or a bullet wound, there was nothing he could do.

The Sheriff and I exchanged smiles and a hand shake and he acted like he had just met me.

 

[Bazoo]

I f you go into a business, that restricts CCW , and you are armed. You have broken the law. If they call the Police, you will be arrested.

Not in the State of Kentucky. Whether or not a No firearms sight carries the weight of law is State specific. Here, it does not for private property.

 

[JohnnyDollar]

As some may be aware, I was dumb enough to volunteer to be King of the HOA. We are a rural to semi-rural neighborhood of hobby farms. Five to 20 acre lots. Several people have impromptu shooting ranges within my kingdom and also neighboring properties.

One of the neighborhood Karens called the Sheriff (whom I coincidentally know from his game warden days). She invited him to our annual HOA meeting to complain about shooting. The Sheriff smiles and listens intently….she complains about noise and safety. I was watching the neighbors faces for agreement.

Sheriff lets her finish then cites our county laws allowing discharge of a firearm for any legal purposes anywhere within the county, providing it is outside and not within 100 feet of a dwelling. He then gives Karen his card and told her until she had property damage, animal injuries, or a bullet wound, there was nothing he could do.

The Sheriff and I exchanged smiles and a hand shake and he acted like he had just met me.

About the same here in rural areas.

We had someone go on a rant about "machine gun" fire she heard off in the distance somewhere (she could not pinpoint the source).
She just would not believe that owning a machine gun could be legal.

 

[Corndog]

@JohnnyDollar
Around me, on opening day of dove season, it sounds like a minor war has broken out.

 

[JohnnyDollar]

@JohnnyDollar
Around me, on opening day of dove season, it sounds like a minor war has broken out.

Personally, I'm doing a heck of a lot more shooting now that hunting season is over.

 

[Corndog]

Personally, I'm doing a heck of a lot more shooting now that hunting season is over.

Likewise. We don’t shoot much during hunting season, to keep the local wildlife from being overly concerned. Spring is the best time. Temps are nice. Grass isn’t tall. Bugs not bad.

 

[jayhdavis]

Likewise. We don’t shoot much during hunting season, to keep the local wildlife from being overly concerned. Spring is the best time. Temps are nice. Grass isn’t tall. Bugs not bad.

Wildlife adapt to the sound of gunfire if it becomes a relatively constant noise. Case in point, we have deer wander across the fields of the trap ranges all the time. They are usually far enough away not to have shot fall on them, but it happens occasionally. The usual reaction of the one hit is a slight jump and a vigorous shake.

 

[Corndog]

Wildlife adapt to the sound of gunfire if it becomes a relatively constant noise. Case in point, we have deer wander across the fields of the trap ranges all the time. They are usually far enough away not to have shot fall on them, but it happens occasionally. The usual reaction of the one hit is a slight jump and a vigorous shake.

We see deer almost every time we shoot. I believe it makes them nervous. I could be wrong about the does, I’m confident I’m correct with the bucks. All deer are not created equal.

 

[jayhdavis]

We see deer almost every time we shoot. I believe it makes them nervous. I could be wrong about the does, I’m confident I’m correct with the bucks. All deer are not created equal.

The bucks are different. They don't live to get good racks by being lackadaisical about their environment. However, it appears they do look at the calendar every year and mark the hunting seasons and shooting hours. It continuously amazes me how quickly the big bucks disappear when archery, muzzle loader, and firearm seasons begin. And that is not because they are harvested.

 

[JohnnyDollar]

Wildlife adapt to the sound of gunfire if it becomes a relatively constant noise. Case in point, we have deer wander across the fields of the trap ranges all the time. They are usually far enough away not to have shot fall on them, but it happens occasionally. The usual reaction of the one hit is a slight jump and a vigorous shake.

True. Hogs are not bothered too much.
Deer are a bit more organized and have a network and know when deer season starts and ends.

But the guys I hunt with prefer I not go out blasting hundreds of rounds a day during hunting season and it does not bother me not too.

 

[50 State]

Thinking about a scenario today. Suppose you don't like the way a young guy who's too close to you looks, so you draw, and then you're falsely accused of brandishing.


If you didn't draw, then you would have been grievously injured. If you had been open carrying, then you would not have been attacked.

Woman Left Paralyzed After Robber Body Slams Her to the Ground, Family Says

 

[DCunniff]

Better article added the good info. Lamestream article had it watered down!!

Dude followed her for over 20 miles after being at an ATM.

Horrifying moment Asian woman is body slammed by robber

Nhung Truong, 44, is paralyzed after she was body slammed on February 13 by a suspect who followed her 23 miles from a Houston ATM to a shopping center and attacked her.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[50 State]

Yeah, I noticed the article I pulled had signs of media bias. Big tech is exploiting the automatic news feed on the Windows 11 system tray.

 

[maddmatter1970]

Thinking about a scenario today. Suppose you don't like the way a young guy who's too close to you looks, so you draw, and then you're falsely accused of brandishing.


If you didn't draw, then you would have been grievously injured. If you had been open carrying, then you would not have been attacked.

Woman Left Paralyzed After Robber Body Slams Her to the Ground, Family Says

These are the "reals" of life. So often we all make choices based on our perception of our situations. A left turn, a right turn, a show of force, a delayed calm. Who can say when the action results in no harm. "Over reaction" is not as dangerous to us as "under reaction" usually. But no one besides the "insane", like myself, are willing to say as much.
The wisdom of prepping for war if you want peace has not changed. The understanding of the phrase,... has.

 

[JohnnyDollar]

Thinking about a scenario today. Suppose you don't like the way a young guy who's too close to you looks, so you draw, and then you're falsely accused of brandishing.


If you didn't draw, then you would have been grievously injured. If you had been open carrying, then you would not have been attacked.

Woman Left Paralyzed After Robber Body Slams Her to the Ground, Family Says

Big assumption.
I’m not sure that could not have happened to that 44 y/o woman if she had been open carrying.
she did not seem concerned until he had his arms around her, then it was too late.

 

[50 State]

I didn't say "her," I used a generic "you all," because open carry doesn't eliminate the need for evasive action.


If you evade and draw, and the perp keeps coming, then you have to be willing and able to shoot.


Under the circumstances of that story, I don't think that perp would have followed her if she had been open carrying. The big assumption that was made by many in this thread is that everyone who open carries will be attacked.


Even though the perps are stupid and short-sighted, that doesn't mean they'll routinely attack the open carrier. The internet has videos of open carriers being attacked, but the internet has a lot of videos of irrational stuff, without any disclosure about probabilities. 500 adults per year killed by accidental shootings, yet everyone in the forum carries with a round in the chamber.


I wouldn't open carry every day after seeing this, but under the right circumstances open carry may actually be safer than concealed.

 

[SCCWP]

I didn't say "her," I used a generic "you all," because open carry doesn't eliminate the need for evasive action.


If you evade and draw, and the perp keeps coming, then you have to be willing and able to shoot.


Under the circumstances of that story, I don't think that perp would have followed her if she had been open carrying. The big assumption that was made by many in this thread is that everyone who open carries will be attacked.


Even though the perps are stupid and short-sighted, that doesn't mean they'll routinely attack the open carrier. The internet has videos of open carriers being attacked, but the internet has a lot of videos of irrational stuff, without any disclosure about probabilities. 500 adults per year killed by accidental shootings, yet everyone in the forum carries with a round in the chamber.


I wouldn't open carry every day after seeing this, but under the right circumstances open carry may actually be safer than concealed.

Like I stated earlier I didn’t start this thread to start an argument. I was just asking a question but I will say that I have opened carried now for over 20 years minus a couple before SC permitted open carry. That counts my LE time and time as a civilian. I have never been targeted or attacked. That’s all I can say. People can suppose of what may happen all day long but I have actual concrete proof that open carrying doesn’t make you a target. There is another gentleman on another forum in a similar thread(Not mine) who stated he has been an investigator for the DAs and has open carried for a similar amount of time and has never been attacked or targeted. There are a lot of people who say you will be but they can offer no proof that it’s so. I have seen videos of people being disarmed when wearing crappy holsters or no holster at all. That is why I carry in a good retention holster. I will not tell anyone to open carry or not that’s up to the individual but if you’re going hypothesize what could happen you should have some proof or experience to go along with it.

 

[JohnnyDollar]

I don’t subscribe to the notion that open carry necessarily makes one a target,
But I don’t think that open carrying automatically makes one less of a target either.

there are several variables involved.

my thought has always been there is no perfect bullet, no perfect holster, no perfect carry option for every possible situation.
All one can do is hope you made the right choices if you need to draw your weapon.

In life, you put your money down and spin the wheel.
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