[SCCWP]

I don’t subscribe to the notion that open carry necessarily makes one a target,
But I don’t think that open carrying automatically makes one less of a target either.

there are several variables involved.

I will agree with you there. I have no proof that my open carrying ever stopped an incident from happening. Most of that time though there was a badge on my belt right next to my gun and that may have persuaded someone to change their plans but I don’t have any proof of that either

 

[Scswolf]

Well, imho, the badge on your belt absolutely changes how your open carry is perceived.
I would bet it is more of a deterrent than you might think.

 

[Corndog]

I will agree with you there. I have no proof that my open carrying ever stopped an incident from happening. Most of that time though there was a badge on my belt right next to my gun and that may have persuaded someone to change their plans but I don’t have any proof of that either

I suspected this and was going to ask. Sorry, you sure weakened your “proof” a bit.

 

[Outlander987]

Well, imho, the badge on your belt absolutely changes how your open carry is perceived.
I would bet it is more of a deterrent than you might think.

The "badge" right or wrong, makes a lot of people feel safer, and they think you are a "good guy" etc not some yahoo show off etc. Do not underestimate the power of the badge. IMHO

 

[10-22]

Like I stated earlier I didn’t start this thread to start an argument. I was just asking a question but I will say that I have opened carried now for over 20 years minus a couple before SC permitted open carry. That counts my LE time and time as a civilian. I have never been targeted or attacked. That’s all I can say. People can suppose of what may happen all day long but I have actual concrete proof that open carrying doesn’t make you a target. There is another gentleman on another forum in a similar thread(Not mine) who stated he has been an investigator for the DAs and has open carried for a similar amount of time and has never been attacked or targeted. There are a lot of people who say you will be but they can offer no proof that it’s so. I have seen videos of people being disarmed when wearing crappy holsters or no holster at all. That is why I carry in a good retention holster. I will not tell anyone to open carry or not that’s up to the individual but if you’re going hypothesize what could happen you should have some proof or experience to go along with it.

Just so you know, police are civilians also.

 

[SCCWP]

Just so you know, police are civilians also.

Yeah bad wording on my part.

 

[Wake County Glockman]

Open carry permitted here in NC but I haven't seen it I imagine it would be frowned on. Walmart prohibits OC in our State except uniform officers but allows Concealed Carry.

 

[10-22]

Open carry permitted here in NC but I haven't seen it I imagine it would be frowned on. Walmart prohibits OC in our State except uniform officers but allows Concealed Carry.

Why would something that is legal be frowned upon?

 

[Outlander987]

Why would something that is legal be frowned upon?

Just because you can do something ,doesn't mean that you should.

 

[10-22]

Just because you can do something ,doesn't mean that you should.

There is not a big enough face palm for this comment. Please, explain why OC is "bad."

I could say the same thing.
"Just because you can afford a fast car, doesn't mean you should buy/drive one."
"Just because you can vote for X political candidate, doesn't mean you should."
"Just because you want to eat X, doesn't mean you should."
"Just because you want to use a steak knife to butter your bread, doesn't mean you should."

See how stupid each one of those sound?

 

[PriseDeFer]

I'm looking at a 5 1/2" Vaquero that would conceal well under my cape that I would wear to the opera if I had a cape and an opera in town. No open carry is an infringement on my right to bear this arm.

 

[Outlander987]

There is not a big enough face palm for this comment. Please, explain why OC is "bad."

I could say the same thing.
"Just because you can afford a fast car, doesn't mean you should buy/drive one."
"Just because you can vote for X political candidate, doesn't mean you should."
"Just because you want to eat X, doesn't mean you should."
"Just because you want to use a steak knife to butter your bread, doesn't mean you should."

See how stupid each one of those sound?

If you do not understand the differences in the discussion, I am certain it is beyond my ability to explain it to you.

 

[Corndog]

Think about this. We have a significant minority here that perceives OC as unnecessary. That doesn’t mean we want you OC guys to stop.

What it does mean, you should expect the non-gun public to have a significant minority (maybe) that perceives OC as unnecessary also. They might feel stronger about it than we do.

 

[10-22]

If you do not understand the differences in the discussion, I am certain it is beyond my ability to explain it to you.

Then please explain to me why I am wrong like I'm 5. I'm willing to learn.

I'll repost some of the questions I've asked before:
I want to know, in what way is CC superious to OC when I can deploy my self defense tool much more quickly and carry more ammo, compared to CC? Outside of "scaring" someone, which you cannot control their hoplophobia, would they see someone who is armed and acting like a normal human being or cower in fear because they've been conditioned by the left (and fudds) that guns = bad?

The only thing I can think of CC is superior, is to ignore those stupid signs that say everyone is disarmed inside.

Think about this. We have a significant minority here that perceives OC as unnecessary. That doesn’t mean we want you OC guys to stop.

What it does mean, you should expect the non-gun public to have a significant minority (maybe) that perceives OC as unnecessary also. They might feel stronger about it than we do.

How many positive 2A experiences and education have you been able to do by CCing?

 

[Corndog]

@10-22
We are on the same side. I don’t carry my gun to teach or convince others that normal people carry guns. I just have it as a tool. Don’t read anything more into it than that.

I don’t care if you OC.

 

[50 State]

Why would something that is legal be frowned upon?

Good point. When we think we've won, they think they just need to fight us that much harder. You and I both know they're still going to try to disarm us, even after we think we've won. If we're allowed to carry, then they'll ban ammo.


The presence of controversy doesn't necessarily mean there's an advantage in "compromise," or in partial surrender, after we've won. Remember what DeSantis said about ignoring the polls and getting re-elected by 20 points (after barely squeezing in the first time) he resisted the widespread advice to trim his sails and "compromise" (i.e., unilateral surrender).


The only political "advantage" I see in frowning upon open carry, is then women get followed home from the bank and grievously victimized, thereby reminding the undecided why legal carry is such an important right.

 

[50 State]

I don’t carry my gun to teach or convince others that normal people carry guns.

It's not to teach anything. As discussed earlier, there are some situations where open carry is superior. It also has a virtuous side-effect in protecting the right.


The more of us carrying open, the harder it will be for them to harass us out. Almost like safety in numbers.

 

[Corndog]

It's not to teach anything. As discussed earlier, there are some situations where open carry is superior. It also has a virtuous side-effect in protecting the right.


The more of us carrying open, the harder it will be for them to harass us out. Almost like safety in numbers.

Go back and look at my entire post. Not just what you snipped. I wasn’t referring to you.

 

[Wake County Glockman]

Why would something that is legal be frowned upon?

Mass Shooting epidemic.

 

[JFoster48386]

I usually conceal carry but I've open carried plenty of times. I open carry at our shop when I'm alone and most of the time nobody notices. For Halloween I usually dress up as a Cowboy (I just wear my SASS stuff) and open carry the entire time.

Jon.