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I believe that if the Ruger P345 were designed correctly, in particular, the Magazine Disconnect, and did not damage internal parts if "dry fired" without the magazine inserted, that many would not mind this "feature", including myself. The problem is, that if the damage does happen, and the magazine disconnect performs a "false magazine out" condition, caused by a damaged/deformed Magazine Disconnect, Item 6 in Figure 1.1, this pistol will not fire, and in a critical situation, this can be deadly, thus categorizing this firearm as unreliable for possible "life and death" scenarios, occasionally going "click- no bang" during a "false magazine out" condition.
If the rear sight is "cleaned", however, the pistol can be made reliable, "click- bang" 100% of the time, making this pistol one of the finest carry weapons available today. Items number 6 and 7 in Figure 1.1 are the Magazine Disconnect components...

Warning: It is VERY important that if you do "clean" the rear sight for your personal safety, that the pistol is returned to "factory" condition before transfer or sale, or a liability against you may occur.

A warning was added on 1-23-06, Page 17 of the P345D Users manual, on Ruger's web site...

Click Here for the full P345D User Manual.
 

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Well I cleaned out my rear sight and you're right it does work like it's supposed to. I think it may have helped the trigger pull also.
 

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That is some good info to know! I don't have one of the P345 because of the mag disconnect and internal lock, but I might just reconsider now.
 

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Will "cleaning out under the rear sight" leave a hole in the underside of the slide and expose the rest of the firing pin mechanism to contaminants? Could this supposed hole be blocked with something? DAY
 

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Once you re-install the rear sight, the cavity is covered. Because of the position, I don't think that it is an issue... When you clean the slide, just keep the "hole" clean with Breakfree and I don't think you'll have any problems...
 

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If you remove the rear sight completly, make sure the fireing pin plunger (#10) dosen't come through the sight set screw hole. It could bend or shear off in the process. I just leave the set screw in after loosening it enough to move the slide.
 

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I have a brand new gun, I will never dry-fire w/o a mag in place, and I don't let anyone touch my guns without my supervision. Do I need to worry about a "false magazine out" condition? I actually like the mag safety in theory, but do wonder about it in the real world.
 

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I am a firm believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". However, if the weapon is for personal defense, and you life depends upon its "got to work" factor, I think I'd consider the mod, because you don't want to find out it's broke when you "have to count on it"... And you know what they say about Murphy and his confounded laws...
 

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Now, is it possible to easily remove the internal lock?
 

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Obxned, I know of cases where officers have reached for their holstered autos and found the clip either gone or the bottom broken out in the tussle---better one shot than none... I've carried my P97s IWB and often my belt would trip the mag release-if I hadn't felt it and snapped it back in, I could have drawn and dumped the mag-it wouldn't have fed, not being seated right...things do happen and one shot would give you some space to grab another mag or a BUG. The reason you're carrying is real...when I'm tempted to say "Oh, that'll never happpen" my next thought is "What if it does, and my Kevin's there?" How sure do we want to be that we win? Small thing to do to help insure you win...
 

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The rear sight on the P345 is BIG! I removed the rear sight set screw completely, clamped the slide in a vise (carefully padded), and attempted to drift the sight over using a piece of wood and a hammer. No matter how hard I wacked it, the sucker just would not move--and I'm a big guy and I wasn't just giving it love taps! Any helpful hints? Move it left or right (from the shooter's perspective)? Use some other tool combo?

I finally decided that I couldn't live with the manual safety model, so I sold it in hopes of eventually getting a P345D.
 

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I have found, in removing the rear sight of my P95DPR, that puting the slide in a baggie and putting it in the freezer for 2 to 3 hours, causes the metal to contract, and makes the sight move easier. Then after I got it off, I dressed the sight bevels slightly. Now one good whack at room temp is all it takes...

I hope this helps...
 

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Thanks for the tip. It gave me another of those "why is it obvious only after someone pointed out to you" moments.

My older Ruger 9's all shoot to the point of aim. My (late) P345 and most other new Ruger "P" series pistols that I am acquainted with all seem to shoot slightly to the left--and that's not just me. Others have commented on the same thing. Ah, well, maybe it's just the heat and humidity down here...
 

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Thanks RNettles,
this has already gone into my Ruger notebook.
Does anyone know if this cleaning will work on other P-Series?
Thanks, peace out.
 
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