found my problem, the bases on the gun was #24 weaver. the savage takes #16 weaver, now i don't know what kind of rings fit the #24 but when i went and got #16 bases my ring tighten down good. they look just alike but there is a difference. thanksWhat you have is a bad set of quad lock rings, call Weaver and they will send you a new set as they did for me. I first called Savage to see if it was the base problem and I even changed bases and the problem persisted, called weaver and they were very nice and sent me two sets as that is what I had bought at wally world and they were both bad. The new rings work well and I use them on several guns.