The local LGS has Ruger 10/22 TD Stainless with the Kryptonite Camo stock with a flash suppressor of some sort for $329.00 on sale. I looked at one and decided to go for it because I cannot find a Ruger 10/22 tactical model with the ATI folding stock. I have looked at several LGS's I did find one that could order me one. Back to today & the 10/22TD model talk about a royal pain to find a scope that will work for my eye relief and still have the rifle broke down and fit in the TD bag!!! I do not have a $200.00 budget for a rifle scope. Two sales guys worked for at least an hour trying to find a scope that would work! I was told the UTG 3-9x32 Bug Out scope would work but at the time it was $98.00 with tax etc this would bring the TD model over $450.00! I first opted for a Simmons 22 Mag 3-9x32 scope but with it mounted on the rifle and set for my eye relief the scope extended too far forward of the action causing the butt stock/action to stick out too far so it won't fit in the bag. This is when I said forget it. Now thinking of going to the other dealer and ordering the Ruger 10/22 Tactical w/the ATI folding stock. At least then I can still fold the rifle up to put into a case with the scope mounted. Very frustrated plus now thinking the TD Model will not hold a zero very well!!! The whole reason for wanting a smaller pkg is because of having a rifle smaller like folded or TD when out camping to keep in my 5th wheel or in my UTV while out riding & camping etc.