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The RAR is the first 30-06 I've ever owned or fired, and I love it already; I have put around 30 rounds through it on three separate trips to the range. My question/comment is that this thing kicks like a mule. I'm tall with big shoulders and I have no problem handling weapons with recoil, but this gun is really putting a hurting on me. Is it me, my gun; what do you think?

Has anyone put a slip on recoil pad on theirs? I think the gun looks really nice (for what it is - a sub $400 rifle) and I like the Ruger cheek pad; the slip on recoil pads look pretty cheesy to me, don't really want to do that to my RAR.

I've searched the internet for something that I can slide over my shoulder, but haven't found anything I like... Any ideas, suggestions?
 

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30-06 is one caliber I've never bought into. Judging by this:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

It's somewhat more than a 308 (which I have). 308s kick but not bad. And more so with heavier bullets. I've shot a 30-06; it was a long time ago but I don't remember any kick being unbearable.

Is it possible you're not holding the butt tightly enough against your shoulder? It's possible there's some jump. You could also try a sling to tighten your grip on the rifle.

My first thoughts here are posture and hold.
 

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You didn't say what ammo you are using in it? Lighter bullet weight equals less recoil. There is also lower recoil ammo available.

The recoil pad looks decent so if you need more cushion for your shoulder for bench shooting then use what you need. If you hunt with it you won't notice any recoil when you pull the trigger on the 10 pointer.
 

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I have an American, in .308 (which I love) and I know that my butt pad is fine; also have a 30-06 in another brand and there's not much difference between them, as far as recoil goes... If it's that bad for you, then put a slip-on pad there too, their cheap enough & usually you can take out the pads, to get the right feel... Good luck...
 

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I have found that when shooting from a bench using a good shoulder pad is a must. I use a PAST mag plus. For the real big kickers a sandbag between the butt and shoulder in addition to the pad keeps the pain down.
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LimbSaver makes some great shoulder pads to wear while bench shooting or sighting in. Replacing the gun's recoil pad with a LimbSaver or other quality recoil pad will also help. The slip on type rarely work well for me. I do both with my Browning A-Bolt .325 WSM (8mm Short Magnum) that has far more recoil than a .30-06. I don't need the shoulder pad if I am hunting. I never feel the recoil with the one or two shots in the field.

I work the hunter rifle sight in service at our club range for eight to ten hours a day. Many people ask me to shoot their rifles to see if the issue is them or the rifle. I end up shooting from .223 up to .458 Lott. I have the thickest LimbSaver shoulder pad available.
 

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Osteend,

You are worried about a slip-on recoil pad looking goofy? Its a slip-on, when the popular kids sit next to you you can take it off quickly.;)

Seriously though, if you're sensitive to the recoil of a 30-06, you have to decide what is more important to you; fashion, or function.
If function is your goal, if something works then you shouldn't care what it looks like.
You also need to decide what you want the fix to affect, and whether or not you can carry weight. My 308 is primarily used as my 1,000 yard bench gun, with Fall hunting.
Because I shoot a few hundred rounds per sitting, recoil builds, and monkeys with my groups. So I added weight to the stock, it now weighs 21#. I have no problems with recoil induced groups, and am perfectly happy to walk a few sections at a whack, chasing deer.

Best of luck with your decision.
 

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The RAR is the first 30-06 I've ever owned or fired, and I love it already; I have put around 30 rounds through it on three separate trips to the range. My question/comment is that this thing kicks like a mule. I'm 6'2" with big shoulders and I have no problem handling weapons with recoil, but this gun is really putting a hurting on me. Is it me, my gun; what do you think?

Has anyone put a slip on recoil pad on theirs? I think the gun looks really nice (for what it is - a sub $400 rifle) and I like the Ruger cheek pad; the slip on recoil pads look pretty cheesy to me, don't really want to do that to my RAR.

I've searched the internet for something that I can slide over my shoulder, but haven't found anything I like... Any ideas, suggestions?
The light weight of the RAR does transmit more felt recoil compared to a heavier wood stocked gun. I think that's why Ruger designed an especially
soft and squishy recoil pad for it. If it's not working for you, maybe consider a more advanced recoil management solution such as the pneumatic or hydraulic piston type. Also the way you are shouldering the butt could be a factor.

You could also try shooting two or three rounds of skeet then shoot your 30-06. After that, you will hardly notice the recoil at all :D In all seriousness though, when I shot skeet and trap I used a shoulder pad, that helped me out a bit.


You didn't say what ammo you are using in it? Lighter bullet weight equals less recoil. There is also lower recoil ammo available.

The recoil pad looks decent so if you need more cushion for your shoulder for bench shooting then use what you need. If you hunt with it you won't notice any recoil when you pull the trigger on the 10 pointer.
I'm not an expert on this subject, but I'm inclined to believe this is not necessarily true. Lighter bullets generally have a greater powder charge to push the bullet at a greater velocity. I would think more powder would mean more recoil. If I'm wrong please let me know, I'd be very interested to know if this is the way it works.
 

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A shooting vest with pad or taking the gun to a gunsmith for a better butt pad may be worth thinkig about. Whatever you do, there is still gonna be alot fo recoil. You went after a big honkin bullet, gonne be a big honkin boom.
 

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30-06 is one caliber I've never bought into. Judging by this:

Rifle Recoil Table

It's somewhat more than a 308 (which I have). 308s kick but not bad. And more so with heavier bullets. I've shot a 30-06; it was a long time ago but I don't remember any kick being unbearable.

Is it possible you're not holding the butt tightly enough against your shoulder? It's possible there's some jump. You could also try a sling to tighten your grip on the rifle.

My first thoughts here are posture and hold.
My hold is good (going back to BRM in Basic Training): solid grip, firmly tucked into shoulder, solid cheek weld, etc.

Thanks for the link, great information.
 

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I have the same problem with the same cartridge. Built a M77 30-06 with fluted barrel, handmade kevlar stock, lightened bolt, etc, that weighs 5lbs, 13 oz. Thing kicks like a mule on steroids.

Shoot off a lead sled. Even with no lead in it, it makes a world of difference.

Buy a PAST recoil shield. They are about $25 and help a lot. I've got one of their field models, but they make a mag (thicker) version too. The field one is thin enough that it doesn't seem like the LOP is way off. I do so much shooting when its 90 to 100 degrees out and a shooting vest would be torture.
 

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How about the shot gunners shoulder pad that goes on like a shoulder holster..Very nice against the heavy recoil stuff.. I bought mine at Wal-Mart..Hope this helps..BTW the slip ons may look "cheesey" BUT if they work WTF huh? <G>

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I have found that when shooting from a bench using a good shoulder pad is a must. I use a PAST mag plus. For the real big kickers a sandbag between the butt and shoulder in addition to the pad keeps the pain down.
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The PAST mag plus is the answer I think. I'm going to order one from Midway as soon as I'm able. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

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You can replace the recoil pad and make it look factory at the same time. Find the pad you want to put on the rifle in a grind to fit. 1 take the action out of the stock- makes it easier to handle. line up the screws of the grind to fit pad with your stock. ( you make have to drill one hole you can eye ball the bit needed.) once that is done put a few drops of candle wax in the holes. This helps the screw go in without splitting the wood. Buy a belt sander I got one from harbor freight cost 25 bucks out the door. Tape the stock 3 times with masking tape the 2 inch wade works the best. Start slow follow the line of the butt stock and in no time you have your custom made recoil pad just for you. Wear old clothes as the stuff goes all over the place. Smooth out the side of the pad with lighter fluid. Didn't think I could do it until I tried it, I do mine all the time. I have bigger sander now saved that much from doing my own.
 
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