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Looking for a 9mm ccw. Looking for an objective comparison between the Security 9 and the 9e. Prefer someone who had carried and/or shot both.
 

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The 9E should have a better trigger. I haven't actually shot either, but I have shot SR9 and SR9C models quite a bit. I have checked the trigger on the Security and just wasn't blown away. It's not bad, I just like the SR9 trigger better.

AND if you are looking to conceal carry, I would suggest the SR9C as a better option. A little shorter than the 9E, but comes with a second mag that holds 17.

Prices have been coming down on these around here. I know it is not as affordable as the 2 you mentioned above, but not a ton more expensive ($100) and you get 2 mags
 

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The 9E should have a better trigger. I haven't actually shot either, but I have shot SR9 and SR9C models quite a bit. I have checked the trigger on the Security and just wasn't blown away. It's not bad, I just like the SR9 trigger better.

AND if you are looking to conceal carry, I would suggest the SR9C as a better option. A little shorter than the 9E, but comes with a second mag that holds 17.

Prices have been coming down on these around here. I know it is not as affordable as the 2 you mentioned above, but not a ton more expensive ($100) and you get 2 mags


I concur! I also have both SR9/9c & carry the SR9c a lot. My lgs has the SR9c’s for $339, I paid $399 for mine about 5 years ago but not complaining. I did hold & squeezed the trigger on a security 9, it felt great for a double action pistol. For concealment though both the security 9 & 9e are fairly large handle wise, but both should be great shooting pistols. I know both my SR9/9c are excellent all around!


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I concur! I also have both SR9/9c & carry the SR9c a lot. My lgs has the SR9c’s for $339, I paid $399 for mine about 5 years ago but not complaining. I did hold & squeezed the trigger on a security 9, it felt great for a double action pistol. For concealment though both the security 9 & 9e are fairly large handle wise, but both should be great shooting pistols. I know both my SR9/9c are excellent all around!


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The Security 9 is not double action.

Ruger, on their website describes the trigger of the Security 9 like this:

The Secure Action used in the LCP® II and Security-9® is derived from the reliable and proven hammer-fired LCP® fire control system. The Secure Action combines the smooth trigger pull of the LCP® with the short, crisp feel and positive reset of a single action.


Note the single action description.

The Security 9 slide fully cocks the hammer mechanism. If the hammer is not cocked by the slide, pulling the trigger does not cock the hammer.

A double action trigger means that the the pulling the trigger will cock the hammer and finally release the sear to fire. On most double action, the slide can also cock the hammer so they are often referred to as DA/SA triggers. The DA gives restrike capability.

The Security 9 should have a better trigger than the SR9/SR9c/E9 because the trigger on those models does finish the cocking of the striker (just like a Glock) and the trigger doesn't have to pull against the heavy striker spring.

I have a SR9c with more than 7000 rounds thru it. It is well broken in. The trigger on the Security 9 I tried at a local gun story was easily as good as that on my SR9c and it was new.
 

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I would not focus on the trigger and you do not have to have a light crisp trigger to begin with and you do not have to worry about riding a reset. Way too much emphasis on triggers.
You have to decide on how much training you plan to do. How diligent with your firearm training will take place. Both of these guns are NOT meant for target shooting. A glass break trigger is not necessary. There are some great smooth double action trigger out there.
How much will you CCW the gun? Is it for home protection only? Do you point and shoot train with your guns? Do you travel at night and need good night sights which I advise even for a good point and shoot style training.
How do you like the feel of the gun.
I suggest you spend some time at the local ranges, get to know some shooters, rent some and remember yes, Ruger makes some great guns, but there are others that make great guns as well.
If you are a new shooter, than maybe the larger Security 9 might be a better choice than a sub compact. Acquire good skills and move down not up.
Of the guns that have been mentioned the SR9 series is a better choice. The gun will take a different grip, built like a tank and you can enjoy for years down the road. You can add night sights, larger mags and it is a MILD shooting gun.
The LC9 series will have more recoil and more muzzle flip. And the fact that it is smaller makes for more training.
Good luck? Just spend some time researching and shooting.
 

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I would not focus on the trigger and you do not have to have a light crisp trigger to begin with and you do not have to worry about riding a reset. Way too much emphasis on triggers.
I agree. There is way too much hype on triggers. That's not to say that triggers aren't important. You want a good trigger but people get stuck on this high speed low drag operator wannabe mentality where they think they have to have the shortest reset and lightest trigger. Think you can tell the difference between a Glock or S&W trigger when the adrenaline dumps during a defensive encounter? Think you'll be able to even perceive a trigger reset while you're pooping your pants?

Now there are bad triggers to stay away from or have repaired/modified. I once fondled a Walther PPK that had the most abysmal trigger I've ever encountered. I asked if it was broken and the salesman said that's how they are. Also encountered a NIB Wiley Clapp SP101 that had issues. Now that is supposed to be a factory tuned gun and it felt 100 times worse than my stock SP101.

So avoid bad or broken triggers but don't get too worked up about finding the perfect trigger on a defensive firearm.
 

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Haven't fired the Security 9, but do own a 9E, and have put plenty downrange on SR9C and SR40Cs.

I conceal my 9E just fine, and unless I bend down to pick something up, it doesn't print hardly at all. Is it a big gun to conceal? Yes, it is. I'm 5'11'' 175 lbs and it ain't hard to conceal for me.

SR9C and 40C are also excellent guns. Trigger on all these guns is pretty nice.
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I agree. There is way too much hype on triggers. That's not to say that triggers aren't important. You want a good trigger but people get stuck on this high speed low drag operator wannabe mentality where they think they have to have the shortest reset and lightest trigger. Think you can tell the difference between a Glock or S&W trigger when the adrenaline dumps during a defensive encounter? Think you'll be able to even perceive a trigger reset while you're pooping your pants?

Now there are bad triggers to stay away from or have repaired/modified. I once fondled a Walther PPK that had the most abysmal trigger I've ever encountered. I asked if it was broken and the salesman said that's how they are. Also encountered a NIB Wiley Clapp SP101 that had issues. Now that is supposed to be a factory tuned gun and it felt 100 times worse than my stock SP101.
This is it, right here. Some guns get a bad rap because the Youtube wannabe operator/reviewers/promoters say it's got a bad trigger. I had the Taurus PT111 G2, which has a loved or notoriously hated trigger. I found, after acclimating to its differences, it was actually one of the nicer triggers I've fired. These are defensive guns, as mentioned, and you don't want a stupid light, crisp competition trigger on this type of gun.

I do love the 9E trigger, though. Honestly, find something that you like concealing ie not too heavy, bulky, doesn't grate your hand to pieces when firing like some guns, and above all, a Ruger. :D :D
 

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The Security 9 is not double action.



Ruger, on their website describes the trigger of the Security 9 like this:



The Secure Action used in the LCP II and Security-9 is derived from the reliable and proven hammer-fired LCP fire control system. The Secure Action combines the smooth trigger pull of the LCP with the short, crisp feel and positive reset of a single action.





Note the single action description.



The Security 9 slide fully cocks the hammer mechanism. If the hammer is not cocked by the slide, pulling the trigger does not cock the hammer.



A double action trigger means that the the pulling the trigger will cock the hammer and finally release the sear to fire. On most double action, the slide can also cock the hammer so they are often referred to as DA/SA triggers. The DA gives restrike capability.



The Security 9 should have a better trigger than the SR9/SR9c/E9 because the trigger on those models does finish the cocking of the striker (just like a Glock) and the trigger doesn't have to pull against the heavy striker spring.



I have a SR9c with more than 7000 rounds thru it. It is well broken in. The trigger on the Security 9 I tried at a local gun story was easily as good as that on my SR9c and it was new.


Alright already, you’ve corrected me on another post on this issue; I guess I apologize. I traded my LCP gen 1 because .380 ammo costs more & the selection of practice ammo at the time was inconsistent as in functionality wise. I’ll try to remember the LCP is a single action next time I post about...


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Alright already, you’ve corrected me on another post on this issue; I guess I apologize. I traded my LCP gen 1 because .380 ammo costs more & the selection of practice ammo at the time was inconsistent as in functionality wise. I’ll try to remember the LCP is a single action next time I post about...


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The original LCP was closer to double action cuz the slide didn't fully cock the hammer. The LCPII and the Security 9 are now singe action.

Alright already (your words) sorry this hard for you. It may not make a difference to you but if other people use your incorrect information they may make bad decisions.

There has been a big "safety" discussion about why the single action of the Security 9 got a safety while the LCPII did not.
 

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I own a Security 9 and enjoy the general feel of that gun a lot. The trigger is nice IMO, but the grip and weight fully loaded are the appealing parts to me. It conceals well too, which was surprising to me, and it remained reasonably comfortable. I just ordered a NIB 9E since they were discontinued, so I'll follow up once I've gotten some range time in with it and let you know how I feel the two compare.
 

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I own a Security 9 and enjoy the general feel of that gun a lot. The trigger is nice IMO, but the grip and weight fully loaded are the appealing parts to me. It conceals well too, which was surprising to me, and it remained reasonably comfortable. I just ordered a NIB 9E since they were discontinued, so I'll follow up once I've gotten some range time in with it and let you know how I feel the two compare.
Well ?
 

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Yeah, I'm poor from buying it. Waiting to get paid again so I can buy some ammo and hit the range. I'll follow up ASAP then. I can definitely say the 9E is overall more cumbersome to carry. It's longer and heavier. The grip is longer and has more potential to print with just a t-shirt. It feels more narrow, but the thickness of the Sec-9 is one of the aspects that draws me in. I've carried the 9E around my house to get a feel for it, and it's not bad once I got adjusted. I have to carry it more aroun 4:30-5/5:30 because it digs into the rear of my hip bone and felt a tad awkward where I normally put the Sec-9 or my EC9s.
 

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Update: And the winner is......... the 9E. Definitely the better handling gun for me. More accurate, tighter groups, easy to manage...... just everything! That said, the Sec-9 is solid. It performed well too, but just was more inconsistent for me with accuracy when I got farther out past the usual SD range. It never was totally off target, but it had the occasional stray. It seemed like my first shot was always the rogue. Anyway, both solid, but I'd pick the 9E all day long.
 

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Glad to hear it. 9E is just a great, no frills, full size gun-I love mine. Steel combat sights are to die for, IMO. I think of it like a combat handgun or even the "offensive" handgun. :D :D
 

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Glad to hear it. 9E is just a great, no frills, full size gun-I love mine. Steel combat sights are to die for, IMO. I think of it like a combat handgun or even the "offensive" handgun. <img src="http://rugerforum.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> <img src="http://rugerforum.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
Rightfully so. If I were a LEO and had a choice, I'd pack an SR9E. Snagging an SR40c at the end of the month and then a RAP45c ASAP on layaway.
 
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