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Very excited about my new Speed Six, I think it will be my carry gun. So today I took it to the range. It is a double action only gun. And I guess I've been doing a lot of single action shooting even with my GP100, because my results with the Speed Six left a LOT of room for improvement! All targets below are seven yards, standing, two handed unless otherwise indicated:

First up, my first target using Remington target loads.


A little eratic, to say the least! Then I settled down and really concentrated, trying to get a good group with Speer gold dot. Awful.


Then I tried Remington Golden Sabre HPJ. I don't know if it's the ammo or I just settled down, but much improved:


Then I shot the rest of my target loads at this final target. This is a mix of shooting two handed as fast as I could do it, and shooting one handed (strong hand) at a reasonable pace. You can tell my one handed shots here! (Hint: start with the five that aren't inside the circles!)


The exciting thing for me here is that, for a personal/home defense weapon, I have identified a clear need to be more proficient with one hand. So I have something to really work on and practice.
 

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Try "stacking" the trigger. What I mean is, pull the trigger until you feel the cylinder lock up, and then with just a tad bit more pressure, the gun goes off, almost like shooting it single action. Yes, one hand, and most especially, weak hand shooting is a challenge. I really stink left handed. But, I try to remember to shoot at least some weak hand everytime I shoot.
 

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Nice Gun Eddie...<:))
I think you like them Remington Golden Saber HPJ...<:))

Acronyms - Used in Naming Cartridges

Cartridge designs are typically given names that are a combination of
numerical designations and letters or words. The numbers usually
describe some dimension of the bullet or case. The letters and words
usually but not always indicate the person, persons, or company which
developed the cartridge design. This list decyphers some of the common
abbreviations and acronyms involved. A list of cartridges that are
"commonly" available for revolvers is in Section III.B.1. A list of
"commonly" available cartridges for semi-automatic pistols including
synonymous cartridge names can be found in Section III.C.1. A list
of available cartridges for rifles will appear in Section III.D.1., but
was not complete at the time of this writing. Included here are one or
two examples of cartridges which use each abbreviation.

Acronym or abbreviation (Examples)

ACP - Automatic Colt Pistol (.45 ACP, .32 ACP)

AE - Action Express (.41 AE, .50 AE)

BR - Bench Rest Remington (6mm BR, 7mm BR)

B&D - Bain and Davis (.357/44 B&D)

G&A - Guns & Ammo Magazine (.40 G&A, .460 G&A)

H&H - Holland & Holland (.375 H&H)

H&R - Harrington & Richardson (.32 H&R Mag.)

IHMSA - International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Assoc.(7mm IHMSA)

JDJ - J. D. Jones (.375 JDJ)

JRS - John R. Sundra (7mm JRS)

LC - Long Colt (.38 LC)

LR - Long Rifle (.22 LR)

Mag - Magnum (.357 Mag, .44 Mag)

mm - millimeter (10mm, 7mm Mag)

NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization (7.62 NATO, 5.56
NATO)

Para. (sometimes Pb) - Parabellum (9mm Para.)

PPC - Pindell-Palmisano Cartridge (.22 PPC, 6mm PPC)

Rem - Remington (.223 Rem, .35 Rem)

Ren - Charles Rensing & Jim Rock (.270 Ren)

RF - RimFire (.22 RF)

Spl. - Special (.38 Spl. .32 Win Spl.)


Sprg. - Springfield Armory (.30-06 Sprg.)

S&H - Sharpe & Hart (7x61 S&H)

S&W - Smith & Wesson (.40 S&W, .32 S&W)

STA - Shooting Times Alaskan

STE - Shooting Times Easterner

STW - Shooting Times Westerner (7mm STW)

TCU - Thompson/Center and (Wes) Ugalde (7mm TCU, 6mm TCU)

TSW - Team Smith & Wesson (.356 TSW)

WCF - Winchester Center Fire (.25-20 WCF, .32-20
WCF)

Win - Winchester (.308 Win, .32 Win
Spl.)

WMR - Winchester Magnum Rimfire (.22 WMR)

NOTES

- 7.62 NATO and .308 Win are equivalent.

- 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington are equivalent.

- From a latin expression "si vis pacem, para bellum," meaning,
"if you would have peace, prepare for war."

- 9mm Para., 9mm Luger, 9mm NATO, and 9x19mm all use equivalent
cases, however, 9mm NATO military ammunition is loaded to
substantially higher pressures than most commercial varieties.


- .22 RF usually refers to one or more of: .22 Short, .22 Long,
and .22 LR.



+P and +P+ Used in Cartridge Names

Each cartridge for which firearms are chambered has a standard working
pressure. Firearms chambered for a given cartridge must be able to
withstand the pressure that that cartridge produces. Some modern
firearms are significantly "over built", and can tolerate pressures
higher than those generated by the cartridge for which they are
chambered. The +P and +P+ ratings were developed to take advantage of
the greater strength built into these guns.

WARNING! - Ammunition designated as +P or +P+ should not be fired in a
gun without the approval of the manufacturer of the gun.

+P appended to a cartridge name, indicates that the loaded cartridge will
generate pressures higher than the industry standard for that cartridge
when it is fired.

+P+ appended to a cartridge name, indicates pressures even greater than
those generated by +P designated ammunition will occur when fired.

+P and +P+ loads for .38 Spl. produce pressures that fall between those
of standard .38 Spl and .357 Magnum, therefore, .38 Spl. ammunition
designated +P and +P+ can be fired in .357 Magnum revolvers.
 

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quote:Originally posted by gunman42782

Try "stacking" the trigger. What I mean is, pull the trigger until you feel the cylinder lock up, and then with just a tad bit more pressure, the gun goes off, almost like shooting it single action. Yes, one hand, and most especially, weak hand shooting is a challenge. I really stink left handed. But, I try to remember to shoot at least some weak hand everytime I shoot.
Thanks, I know exactly what you're talking about but didn't know there was a name for it. It is a very clear point in the trigger pull and I think with some practice I will be able to sort of pause there. And yeah, shooting one handed is something I've done almost none of. But it will be part of my routine now.
 

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New gun=new feel...you'll get it soon...I'm confident you will, even though you have trouble spelling;)...the one thing I tell folks about DA shooting-works with SA, too...you should be surprised when the trigger "breaks" free of the sear.......if you "know" when the shot's gonna go off, you'll flinch...start the stroke, (or final stroke, if you're stack shooting like Tim said) and just keep on till it bangs with no thought of "Now? Now?...." You do this whether slow or rapid firing...you stroke-it decides when to bang....so enjoy the fam-fire phase and shootalot!!!!
 

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Sheepdog, Sabre/Saber? Only misspelling I could find, usually I'm pretty good (although I think 'misspelling' might be spelled wrong). I went ye Olde School with Sabre I think...

I am hopeful that more practice with this gun - which is so different than my GP100 in feel - I will be able to improve. With the GP, every time I went to the range I could see improvement, so hopefully that will happen here too. I have another question about the Speed Six but I'll post that in the revolver forum...
 

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Your doing fine for the first time out with a new gun and you probably are not use to shooting a DAO revolver. Time of practice and going to the range will make it all fall into place for you. Don't forget to practice with the off hand and learn to enjoy what you are doing. After all no one ever said this couldn't be fun to learn. Good luck Eddie.
 

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Thanks Baldy! It is fun, and I brought it again today, I might hit the range on my way home this evening. This gun is really fun partly because I'm so fond of how it looks and feels. I should get my holster soon and I can try some of those moves, like the, 'yeah, I've got my wallet for you, it's got lots of money in it and it's in my back pocket right HERE!! Blam Blam Blam!!'

Uh, I mean, doesn't everyone practice that move??
 

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Yeah, but when I get to the part about lots of money in it, my wife's hysterical laughter tips 'em off that somethin's not right...
 
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