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I most often buy ammo in bulk (usually 1,000 rnds for non-.22LR), Target Sports (Target Sports USA - Free Shipping On Bulk Ammo & All Firearms) is great for free shipping. They're also reliable and quick.

I only have five firearms that are pretty much unique in caliber (meaning only ones that fire a caliber no other ones do), and I don't fire them much anyway so a local trip to an FFL to get a hundred or so isn't financially challenging.

Curiously, one of those unique-caliber firearms shoots .30 Cal Carbine. I bought a case of 1K (free shipping). In a world turned upside down, am thinking of getting another .30 Cal Carbine shooter to help use-up those 1K rounds...
 

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If you are into shooting, especially handguns and 9mm now is the time of the reloader.
I have been able to get primerss, powder and bullets when factory ammo was sold out everywhere.
In fact I have reloaded 5,000 rounds of 115gr coated round nose over the last 2 months. Shot a lot of it too!
 

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Could there be warehouses somewhere that got filled to the rafters with the recent glut, and are just now being emptied, hence the lack of wholesale orders to the manufacturers? If so, then the overtime shifts will probably start soon. I don't see this ending any time before early November.
 

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Grab-A-Gun ships any amount of ammo for a flat rate of $12.99.
Nice play, but it really doesn't matter how much they charge for shipping if they don't have any ammunition in stock..... last I checked .556 was non-existent and the same for .223 or it was almost $1 rd for even the basic ... so even if they offered FREE shipping, it really wouldn't matter (at least not to me)
But... Speaking of FREE, same issue with stock... but when in stock, it usually ships free and at the lowest price I could find $349.99 for Fed / LC 5.56 at Target Sports USA.
 

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Unless I missed it while scanning this thread I have not seen mention of ammoseek.com. I use them FREQUENTLY. In recent months though I have found it best not to think to hard. When you find a deal, buy it NOW. I just got in 1,200 rounds of CCI .22 Short today from TargetSportsUSA and before that a case of Winchester Ranger 12 GA 00 buck from LAX Ammo last week. Price and shipping were not too bad.

As far as reloading supplies... I generally stock up every so often from PowderValleyInc. It takes a decent size order to amortize the hazmat so an order lasts me for a while. Missouri Bullet is great for cast bullets. I have been using EvergladeAmmo for plated and jacketed pistol bullets for a while now. And for those of you who remember BrassBomber - I checked their web site a few days ago and apparently the owner has made a good recovery from some medical issues and is looking to open up his store again. He had some great deals on military brass.

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On the firearm manufacturing side it appears Ruger is going full steam. There are 5 shifts at the NH facility. Here in nearby Prescott the 1st shift is 50 hours/week M-F, 2nd shift is 55 hours/week M-F and 3rd shift is weekends with 1st and 2nd working some Saturdays as well. Pretty much in production 24/7. Ruger is hiring at all locations but the pay is low, in Prescott anyway. CNC operators at AZ minimum wage.
 

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I just ordered 500 coated bullets in .40 from Missouri. Shipping was 25% of the deliver price.
Yes, lead is a heavy metal, It's going to be a significant part of the total price.
Myself, I can't even imagine ordering only 500 bullets.

Seems like not a lot of forum members were ever Boy Scouts.
(Be Prepared)
 

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I find it very humorous when the folks who beat their chests about capitalism and the American way piss and whine when it rears its head. You can't have it both ways....All very simple economics.
I’ll still take capitalism any day over socialism. Proud to be an American!
 

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I'm happy that I overstocked on ammo over the winter. So unless I get silly at the range (I've almost stopped completely with the lockdowns) I'm in great shape.

The only issue I'm having is I have 3 bucket list firearm purchases that I planned to make before november, so I'm going to end up overpaying on that end. Oh well, my fault for procrastinating
 

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Nice play, but it really doesn't matter how much they charge for shipping if they don't have any ammunition in stock..... last I checked .556 was non-existent and the same for .223 or it was almost $1 rd for even the basic ... so even if they offered FREE shipping, it really wouldn't matter (at least not to me)
But... Speaking of FREE, same issue with stock... but when in stock, it usually ships free and at the lowest price I could find $349.99 for Fed / LC 5.56 at Target Sports USA.

I found the same when browsing, either out of stock or overpriced.

I like using GAG fast shipper. Fair pricing normally.
 

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It's Friday, July 10 just after midnight. I confess that I've only read the OP (aka post 1) in this thread. I'll make time to read more soon. But today, I rode 40 mi on an ATV trail (I'll turn 70 soon), some portions of which will make all of your joints disassociate if you're going faster than 5 mph. (Hey, this is N Maine.) So I'll have to read more later. Right now, video footage of the day's ride has my attention.

Just this for now, which seems relevant to the topic in this thread (firearm scarcity now). I found two needed items at a local gun shop where I've done business since 2016 (when I moved here). (A visit to that shop was one of my main motivations for the ride, but not the only one.)

One: several boxes of 20 gauge 3 and 4 buck, the 4 buck from Federal. It was on a back shelf.

Two: a Stoeger 20 gauge S x S coach gun to fire that ammo. (Yeah, I always buy ammo before the gun. Did it for the 10/22 and the EC9s; motivates getting the money together to get the gun.) One of the owners found it online and ordered it in. (He was previously an expert car parts specialist who found and ordered in rare parts. Just apply that to the gun shop niche.) It'll be here late next week from the midwest. I've put it on layaway while I raise the remaining funds. But at least it'll be nearby whille I do that. I anticipate I should have it in about a month.
 

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On the firearm manufacturing side it appears Ruger is going full steam. There are 5 shifts at the NH facility. Here in nearby Prescott the 1st shift is 50 hours/week M-F, 2nd shift is 55 hours/week M-F and 3rd shift is weekends with 1st and 2nd working some Saturdays as well. Pretty much in production 24/7. Ruger is hiring at all locations but the pay is low, in Prescott anyway. CNC operators at AZ minimum wage.
People must be buying a LOT of Rugers. Most anything Ruger seems to be "out of stock". Been looking mainly for .22's.
 

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There are too any differences in the shipping quotes to believe that. Classic wants $50+ to ship that case of ammo. Buds will ship their more expensive equivalent for $30. I could go on because I've checked several sites. Buds is choosing to make their extra money up front by charging more for the product but keeping their shipping charges where they should be. Classic is pretending to be cheaper but making their money up by earning a profit on shipping charges.

All the things you mention apply to a point but they don't explain Federal 556 going for $600 a case in some places now. Part of the cost increase is retailers taking advantage of demand. The point of my original post was that we are seeing more of that this time around.
Remember that all those retailers went into the hole financially when the shutdown happened. But they still had bills to pay. I'm not excusing, or apologizing, just saying S$$T is not the only thing that runs down hill!
 

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I have a "decent" amount of ammunition on hand, but it certainly doesn't feel like enough. And with the situation being what it is, I'm honestly afraid to use any of what I have on hand for recreational or even practice purposes, in the event of an emergency developing sometime down the line and I'll need all I've got just for that.
 

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Whether someone is "out in a field" is debatable. While I am currently sitting at a desk, am I not speaking publicly? Again, the points being made weren't intended (in my opinion) to make anyone feel good or bad. They just are what they are. If they happen to make you upset, i think you are deciding to take them that way. Rubone's initial comment was not directed at anyone in particular. If you read my first post in full, you will see I think that the inflated prices (thanks for the in depth analysis Feral) are probably bringing us inline with what other people are paying all the time. Check out what a SR1911 costs someone in England.

I think we are all agreeing that capitalism is better than socialism. Anyone disagree with that?
Bernie Sanders and AOC would probably disagree with you about that.
 

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I was able to find PMC bronze 223 at Trueshot 500rnds for 214 and 25 shipped across the states. I also went back a few days after ordering and seen price go from 40 cents a rnd to 80 cents. Just gotta keep looking. Get on a notification list with wikiarms. With that said most of the time I go to order it ends up being out of stock...but you can get lucky from time to time. I also feel like I should go get a firearm chambered in 380 acp as there seems to be plenty of that. Which also make a great argument for having multi caliber tools. So you dont have to rely on 1 type of ammo.
 

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To be clear (as the OP), I am very well stocked up. The reason I created the thread was that I went looking for some cheap steel 762.39 to shoot at the range this summer and was surprised to see how some online retailers who in the past have not taken advantage of scarcity, are doing so this time around. Once you push prices above MSRP on something, you are looking to make extra profit as you are not satisfied with the profit you would normally still make. Every business has the right to make that call, but you also have those that understand that you can play the short game or the long game. Companies that play the long game are the ones I'd rather support.

Luckily for me, a regional farm/ranch supply chain in my area is playing the long game. I've been able to find that 762.39 (and before that some 9mm for the range ammo can) at prices below what is mostly being offered online right now.
 

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Glad you found reasonably priced ammo. Sometimes that is the key; just keep looking around until you find a price you are comfortable with.
 

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Higher prices control the supply and rate of depletion. If you have 100,000 rounds and won’t be able to get any more for 6 months, where you’d normally sell 150,000 rounds in that time period, charging 1.5x MSRP gives you the same profit over that time period (oversimplified, but just to illustrate a point), and helps ensure there’s plenty available for those who are willing to pay more.

So higher prices do NOT mean more profit, when supply is limited.
 
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