billt, You probably didn't go into the specifications page. All Ruger Mini-14s (Ranch or Target) now have a 1:9 twist rate. See: http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdSpecsView?model=5835 Contrary to popular belief, this does not mean you can shoot heavy bullets. Because of the shorter barrel (18.5") you don't get the full velocity of a 20-24" barreled 223 Rem. Spin rate is based on both twist rate and muzzle velocity. The heaviest bullet that will stabilize at 300 yards or more is a 60 grain. A 69 gr will stabilize up to about 250 yards.