What The Heck is FDE?

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DirtyShirt

Discussion Starter · 5 mo ago (Edited)

I recently assembled a 300 Blackout AR style rifle.
For safety reasons I wanted to differentiate the 300 Blackout rifle from my 5.56 rifles so I decided to put some FDE furniture on the rifle.
I like to keep my AR's black. I'm not big on aesthetics or that stuff but this was for safety reasons.
I ordered a stock, sling, magazines and Hogue grip in FDE. Everything has arrived except the Hogue grip and they're all a different color lol. I find it hilarious. The mag and stock are both Magpul FDE but somehow are two different colors.
The sling is more of a gold color and I imagine the Hogue grip is will be yet another shade of FDE. I really don't care. My rifle is built for business and the color is insignificant to it's function but I find it funny.
For what it's worth, of all the shades of FDE that occupy my rifle; the color of the stock is my favorite.

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JohnR

· #21 · 4 mo ago

FS30118, according to this unofficial source, though it most likely refers to RAF camo from WWII. https://www.italeri.com/ItaleriAcrylicPaint-Conversion-Chart.pdf

The Federal Standard colors are here (“FS 30118 Field Drab”): Federal Standard Color and AMS Standard Color | www.FederalStandardColor.com I haven’t found a US military official FS color for FDE.

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DirtyShirt

Discussion Starter · #22 · 4 mo ago

JohnnyDollar said:
on an unrelated to color post,……

I’m seriously considering getting a .300 BO upper to swap onto one of my ARs just for a change.

So I'm definitely interested in a range report from the OP on his new rifle.

Coming soon.....

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Andre Coop

· #23 · 4 mo ago

JohnnyDollar said:
on an unrelated to color post,……

I’m seriously considering getting a .300 BO upper to swap onto one of my ARs just for a change.

So I'm definitely interested in a range report from the OP on his new rifle.

In laymen terms, think of the 5.56 as .40 cal (full charge) and the .300 BLK as a .45ACP full charge. Bigger, slower, and barely noticeable in power. The .77gr 5.56 completely destroys the .300BLK in every aspect, except sub-sonic suppressed. That is where .300BLK shines.

JohnnyDollar

· #24 · 4 mo ago

Andre Coop said:
In laymen terms, think of the 5.56 as .40 cal (full charge) and the .300 BLK as a .45ACP full charge. Bigger, slower, and barely noticeable in power. The .77gr 5.56 completely destroys the .300BLK in every aspect, except sub-sonic suppressed. That is where .300BLK shines.

That may very well be,
but I have been unable to get a 70gr bullet to fly straight out of either my 20" 1/7 or 16" 1/7 AR,
I am reluctant to even try a 77gr bullet.

Andre Coop

· #25 · 4 mo ago

JohnnyDollar said:
That may very well be,
but I have been unable to get a 70gr bullet to fly straight out of either my 20" 1/7 or 16" 1/7 AR,
I am reluctant to even try a 77gr bullet.

Ahh,

Your 1/7 rate is on the "not yet" side of 77grain. Many say it will work, while others say no. That's a twist factor of 2:3, "perfect" is right at 2. You can launch the 80 and above with perfection.

Mine are 1/8 rate by purpose and excel with the 72 & 77 grainers.

Geronimo Jim

· #26 · 4 mo ago

Brilliant idea! A lot of gun blown up trying to fire 300 BO in 223 guns.

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Montana09

· #27 · 4 mo ago

Another option that helps keep you from mixing mags up as well is the rubber bands they make for magazines, they let you determine the caliber at a quick glance. I bought these for my 6.5 Creedmoor upper to help prevent a mix up with my 308s on my AR-10

Amazon.com : mag band

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DirtyShirt

Discussion Starter · #28 · 4 mo ago

Twang said:
Mmmmmm.

Andre Coop said:
In laymen terms, think of the 5.56 as .40 cal (full charge) and the .300 BLK as a .45ACP full charge. Bigger, slower, and barely noticeable in power. The .77gr 5.56 completely destroys the .300BLK in every aspect, except sub-sonic suppressed. That is where .300BLK shines.

What are these aspects in which 77 grain 5.56 blows supersonic 300 BO out of the water?

Greybeard Gamecock

· #29 · 4 mo ago

Yeah, I have a few different shades of FDE on my American Ranch. It's tolerable and deer don't seem to mind. The funny part is, the FDE stock that came with it was the first thing to go. Now the stock is the only major part that isn't some shade of FDE.

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Andre Coop

· #30 · 4 mo ago

DirtyShirt said:
What are these aspects in which 77 grain 5.56 blows supersonic 300 BO out of the water?

I'm not the 5.56 fan, it's still just a .22 to me.

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maddmatter1970

· #31 · 4 mo ago

77 gr sierra are about as good as a 5.56/.223 get.

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Akboater

· #32 · 4 mo ago

I’m with Sandog, cerakote to suit my tastes!

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DirtyShirt

Discussion Starter · #33 · 4 mo ago

Andre Coop said:
I'm not the 5.56 fan, it's still just a .22 to me.
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Based on the information on that chart I wouldn't say it blows it out of the water in ever aspect. I would say certain loadings of 77 grain 5.56 out of a particular barrel length can produce a marginal edge in energy foot pounds beyond 200 yards compared to certain loads of 300 BO. And even then the difference is only roughly 100 foot pounds.

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DaddyO66

· #34 · 4 mo ago

Try being a remodeling contractor, I'm constantly amazed at how many shades of white exist.

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JohnnyDollar

· #35 · 4 mo ago

DaddyO66 said:
Try being a remodeling contractor, I'm constantly amazed at how many shades of white exist.

or just a homeowner trying to get his wife to select a color white.

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DaddyO66

· #36 · 4 mo ago

When the Boss wants a remodel here I bring her 3 samples. I've learned not to take her to the tile store.

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Robert70

· #37 · 4 mo ago

FDE = Flat Dark Earth. In reality though, it's not that dark. I actually like it. Especially when it's mixed with black. FDE body/lower. Black Slide on a simi auto, makes for an attractive pistol, JMO

Andre Coop

· #38 · 4 mo ago

DirtyShirt said:
Based on the information on that chart I wouldn't say it blows it out of the water in ever aspect. I would say certain loadings of 77 grain 5.56 out of a particular barrel length can produce a marginal edge in energy foot pounds beyond 200 yards compared to certain loads of 300 BO. And even then the difference is only roughly 100 foot pounds.

Agreed, but that's a .22 out hammering a .308...In which the .308 was specially designed to out hammer the .22. Think that over for a moment. The .300BLK was supposed to "destroy" the 5.56 to 300m, yet the 77gr .22 is not accepting that outcome.

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bearcatter

· #39 · 4 mo ago

FDE - Fried Delicious Earthworms......

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sandog

· #40 · 4 mo ago

FDE - For Dire Emergencies !

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