Thank you all for your input and yes I am ashamed to say this m&%(#))(#$g state went to 10. I have some old butler creek 10 round banana mags that work fine. I tried contacting BC to no avail so I just cannot justify rewarding bad behaviour. Tired of beating my head against a wall, I succumbed and ordered a dozen clear ones from Buds. Decent price. If they are defective, I will contact Ruger. The Hot Lips supposedly are notorious for being troublesome that is why they have the Steel Lips. The hot lips allegedly is discontinued. But yet, people complain about the clear Rugers vs the black ones in 10rd. Thanks again and happy shooting.......a very disgusted firearms instructor.