...and I dont mean noise; I'd be delighted if mine were making noise right now. I bought a Frankford Arsenal tumbler 2 or 3 years ago and it just died. Who has one that has lasted a ling time? My hunch is they all clean well but the vibrating type seems to be self destructive since they work on a weight making the armature out of balance which causes the vibration (self destructive). So before I buy another vibrator tumbler I thought I'd put the question out there and see if I can buy one that might last longer.