Who's reloading DATA do you use?
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I have many different manuals but I only use data from professional sources. I don't use data from "just Joe" on the Internet.
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How is that Oregon Trails manual? Do you recommend it?
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Depends on the projectile.
If I'm loading lead, I use the Lee Modern Reloading 2nd Edition Revised or Lyman manual. For jacketed projectiles, I use the reloading manual that the bullet manufacturer puts out.
If I'm loading lead, I use the Lee Modern Reloading 2nd Edition Revised or Lyman manual. For jacketed projectiles, I use the reloading manual that the bullet manufacturer puts out.
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Very, very wise.
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I have several manuals but they are all the newest editions. I wish I had some of the older manuals. I really like Lyman, Lee seems to get their data from the powder manufacturers, Hornady does load light as was said, Hodgdon is kinda limited. I only use Hodgdon powders, so far and other than one box of Speer and one box of Midway Dogtown everything else I have (also so far) are Hornady Bullets. I load for 45colt, 30-30, 308, 5.56/.223, 45acp and whatever my Dad asks me to load for him this week which could be about anything other than 50bmg. LOL. I use them for guides then test for myself with my Chronograph and I look for signs of overpressure and test for accuracy at distance. 
I use all I can get my hands on.... I have Lyman, Hornady, Speer, Lee from older to newer manuals... Then there are magazine articles, smaller specific caliber books. Finally the internet manufactures as another source. Of course 'Joe on the web' data (if looks interesting) will be verified before ever seeing one of my guns. All good... Just never rely on 'one' source (internet being the least reliable source ... the manufacturer or 'Joe').
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I get all my data from the blogs on the internet...I love to load hot and none of the manuals even come close...bunch of sissies! It's not near a decent load if it doesn't flatten those primers right out and spit stuff in your eyes and make your ears ring for a week.
No, not really but I think some of the keyboard "reloaders" get their advice from places like that on the net....I use several of the manuals (and I stay current with them)..also from the component manufacturers. I load light so I'm usually pretty easy to please on loads. I have a few friends on the internet on some of the sites that I've talked with over a long period of time and I might ask a question of them or for some advice now and then but again, loading pretty light if I see something that doesn't make sense I'm going to check, check and double check....got a friend that call's it "Bob'n it to death" (I'm Bob)...drives him nuts that I may ask the same thing 3 ways to see if the answer changes. Main thing is "Read the books" and check everything over and over.
One thing I mentioned some time ago was that I'd had some older data using a Speer 125gr projectile (#4013) and HP38...it was a nice load....I hadn't loaded if for some time so I went to the current manual and noticed it was not listed...I contacted Speer and was told they "no longer recommended" the loading the way it had been listed...so it pays to "stay current"...if you are using a 1956 manual and loading with today's powders it might be a nasty surprise if you get to playing around in the stratosphere...my 2 cents.
So my favorite load is 54 grains of Unobtanium behind a 55 grain silver bullet in my 476 Mag....get's about 5000 fps and ME of about 4#...great load for humming birds.
No, not really but I think some of the keyboard "reloaders" get their advice from places like that on the net....I use several of the manuals (and I stay current with them)..also from the component manufacturers. I load light so I'm usually pretty easy to please on loads. I have a few friends on the internet on some of the sites that I've talked with over a long period of time and I might ask a question of them or for some advice now and then but again, loading pretty light if I see something that doesn't make sense I'm going to check, check and double check....got a friend that call's it "Bob'n it to death" (I'm Bob)...drives him nuts that I may ask the same thing 3 ways to see if the answer changes. Main thing is "Read the books" and check everything over and over.
One thing I mentioned some time ago was that I'd had some older data using a Speer 125gr projectile (#4013) and HP38...it was a nice load....I hadn't loaded if for some time so I went to the current manual and noticed it was not listed...I contacted Speer and was told they "no longer recommended" the loading the way it had been listed...so it pays to "stay current"...if you are using a 1956 manual and loading with today's powders it might be a nasty surprise if you get to playing around in the stratosphere...my 2 cents.
So my favorite load is 54 grains of Unobtanium behind a 55 grain silver bullet in my 476 Mag....get's about 5000 fps and ME of about 4#...great load for humming birds.
This is a good question and one that I ask when I started Reloading all those years ago.
The simple answer is, I use the data from the Bullet Manufacturer.
That is always the best option.
For a HG I tend to use Speer, Horn or Lead.
For a rifle almost exclusively Nosler except for the 450M and 45 Colt.
I stay away from using one bullet and a different bullet manufacturer’s data.
If there is no data for a specific Bullet Manufacturer (Like Rem) I will call the powder manufacture and ask advice.
Any time you make a change start low and work up
Snake
The simple answer is, I use the data from the Bullet Manufacturer.
That is always the best option.
For a HG I tend to use Speer, Horn or Lead.
For a rifle almost exclusively Nosler except for the 450M and 45 Colt.
I stay away from using one bullet and a different bullet manufacturer’s data.
If there is no data for a specific Bullet Manufacturer (Like Rem) I will call the powder manufacture and ask advice.
Any time you make a change start low and work up
Snake
I have been reloading since I was 14..I'm 44 now and reload for 6 different calibers (3 rifle and 3 pistol) but I am far from a professional reloader.
I use the data from the bullet mnfr. So for Hornady bullets I use their data for Nosler bullets their data and so on. For the HSM SWC I use the data from the Hornady SWC chart for that particular caliber per the HSM websites recommendations.
If you look at tables for the same caliber/weight and style bullet from different mnfs you'll see there are differences in recommended powder weight for a specific powder brand.
I suppose there are differences in the actual resistance of the bullet traveling through the barrel because of different copper alloys and jacket thicknesses.
You can also use data from the powder mnfr. if they list your specific bullet.
Darrell
I use the data from the bullet mnfr. So for Hornady bullets I use their data for Nosler bullets their data and so on. For the HSM SWC I use the data from the Hornady SWC chart for that particular caliber per the HSM websites recommendations.
If you look at tables for the same caliber/weight and style bullet from different mnfs you'll see there are differences in recommended powder weight for a specific powder brand.
I suppose there are differences in the actual resistance of the bullet traveling through the barrel because of different copper alloys and jacket thicknesses.
You can also use data from the powder mnfr. if they list your specific bullet.
Darrell
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I have Lyman 49, the Cabelas One Caliber books, and the online Hodgdon directory that I reference. I will usually get info from all three, and start at the lowest end that falls within all the publishers ranges. Some times each source is real close, sometimes not. That's why it's good to compare between a few.
I will use load recommendations or recipes I find online if they still fall within the ranges in published books. (For example, my favorite load for soft 38's came from a forum member here, but I only tried it after seeing it was well within the limits of the various manuals)
I will use load recommendations or recipes I find online if they still fall within the ranges in published books. (For example, my favorite load for soft 38's came from a forum member here, but I only tried it after seeing it was well within the limits of the various manuals)
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I like the Oregon Trails Manual for their product. I've just used it for .38/.357 so. They catalog a 140 g bullet but don't show data in the manual. I emailed them and the sent back a data sheet for that. I did the same for loads for my .308, but have not used those yet.
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Always used the Speer book, never got into hot loads or unusual loads. If I want a hot load I shoot some factory rounds. They are always hotter than my reloads. Of course all I load are handgun rounds, which is far different than high velocity rifle stuff. I don't hunt so I never had a reason to get into rifle reloading. Hunted with my dad as a kid, but that was long ago. Now my daughter and I go to the range and burn up boxes of .38 specials.
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Lyman, Lee and Hodgdon's website work pretty good for me. Next book for me will probably be from one of the bullet boys ... Hornady, Speer or Nosler. One can never have too many books.
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If I use Hornady bullets, I'll use Hornady data. Same with Sierra, Speer, etc. If I load lead bullets I use Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook.
FWIW; I pay very little attention to any forum "expert", web blog, Range Rat, or Gun Shop Guru. I've heard, at the range or from some sporting goods counter man, some really wild stuff concerning powders/loads, etc., and I've seen a couple wild (mebbe dangerous) loads listed on a forum, and I just take it with a grain of Bullseye. I have several manuals that have enough info/load data to last me the rest of my reloading life and I trust their suggestions. I've been reloading since '86 (first try was with a Lee loader in 1969, only reloaded a few hundred, divorce interrupted shooting/reloading), and have an idea how to reload safely...
FWIW; I pay very little attention to any forum "expert", web blog, Range Rat, or Gun Shop Guru. I've heard, at the range or from some sporting goods counter man, some really wild stuff concerning powders/loads, etc., and I've seen a couple wild (mebbe dangerous) loads listed on a forum, and I just take it with a grain of Bullseye. I have several manuals that have enough info/load data to last me the rest of my reloading life and I trust their suggestions. I've been reloading since '86 (first try was with a Lee loader in 1969, only reloaded a few hundred, divorce interrupted shooting/reloading), and have an idea how to reload safely...
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