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Quite interesting thought there, Legacy....
No doubt, if Ruger were to do it, indeed, "built like a tank!" would surely be applicable.
And...if it were also...
To have the steel of a model 12...
The grace of a 37 Ithaca...
The simplicity of a Wingmaster...
We'd be there!!!
No doubt, if Ruger were to do it, indeed, "built like a tank!" would surely be applicable.
And...if it were also...
To have the steel of a model 12...
The grace of a 37 Ithaca...
The simplicity of a Wingmaster...
We'd be there!!!
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I have heard it mentioned, and I tell you why they probably never will do it. Mossburg, and Remington (I would have added Winchester before they stopped making them) already make shotguns at pretty cheap prices. It really would be hard to compete with them. You can buy a Mossburg 500 and Remington 870 for a little over 2 bills each at Wally-World, complete with choke tubes. The profit on a model selling for that kind of money would be small indeed.
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Sheepdog...
Interesting idea about a "high cap" twenty bore.
The twenty is a pretty mean weapon in it's own right, particularly if 3" ammo is used. For me, unless it's on-th'-job stuff ( where the 12 is mandated for SG ), I reach for a handy twenty-bore....and don't feel under-gunned...
Interesting idea about a "high cap" twenty bore.
The twenty is a pretty mean weapon in it's own right, particularly if 3" ammo is used. For me, unless it's on-th'-job stuff ( where the 12 is mandated for SG ), I reach for a handy twenty-bore....and don't feel under-gunned...
I agree with you there. My father and grandfather both shot 20ga, but I had to be a big man and get 12ga. Sometimes I wished that I had paid better attention and gone with the 20ga, and I will probably pick one up when my daughter gets a little older.
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Yeah, true.
When I go to a friend's place in Kinney County I take a Stoeger 20 ga Coach gun...20" barrels, but choked IC/MOD. It's got a "shell saddle" on the stock for an extra 5 rounds, and a hi-viz front bead.
I walk the brush with it frequently and, when doin' so, usually put 3" #2's or 4's in th' tubes, with two of the same in the saddle. The other three rounds are 3" buck.
I figger it'll do for about anything I walk up on ( and, yeah, there's always a pistola of some sort as well ).
I've used this un' for about eight years or so, and it's had quite a few rounds thru it. It's also been used for bird hunting in a pinch and done rather well, considering the short sight plane.
One advantage to the short double gun...it'll break down mighty small fer carryin when yer on the road...
When I go to a friend's place in Kinney County I take a Stoeger 20 ga Coach gun...20" barrels, but choked IC/MOD. It's got a "shell saddle" on the stock for an extra 5 rounds, and a hi-viz front bead.
I walk the brush with it frequently and, when doin' so, usually put 3" #2's or 4's in th' tubes, with two of the same in the saddle. The other three rounds are 3" buck.
I figger it'll do for about anything I walk up on ( and, yeah, there's always a pistola of some sort as well ).
I've used this un' for about eight years or so, and it's had quite a few rounds thru it. It's also been used for bird hunting in a pinch and done rather well, considering the short sight plane.
One advantage to the short double gun...it'll break down mighty small fer carryin when yer on the road...
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I would love to see Ruger come out with stainless steel coach guns 12 and 410 ga.
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Now that would be sweet ...
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Heck,
I'd be happy if the Red Label would just work consistently...
<Did I say that out loud?>
I'd be happy if the Red Label would just work consistently...
<Did I say that out loud?>
You too?Heck,
I'd be happy if the Red Label would just work consistently...
<Did I say that out loud?>
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With all the available models of pump showguns already, what could Ruger do that would be so much superior? There's certainly limits with any design and with the shotgun, it's not as though one needs a super strong "tank" -like action. How often does one hear about an equivalent of "Ruger-only" loads for a shotgun? Give me performance and useability over a tank. Build a tank and the folks that clamored for it will complain - *insert winey voice here* - "it's too heavy".
However...I'd be thinking there'll be a new model Ruger branded shotgun within the not too distant future.
Give me performance and useability over a tank. Build a tank and the folks that clamored for it will complain - *insert winey voice here* - "it's too heavy".However...I'd be thinking there'll be a new model Ruger branded shotgun within the not too distant future.
prototype
A few months ago I was talking to a Ruger sales rep in a gun store and he told me that he had seen a prototype pump a few years ago. I love my Rugers but I sometimes think lunacy runs rampant at corporate. i.e. where are all those Gold Labels. I think that was gun of the year a few back by some prominant gun magazine. Alas they don't really exist. So what DO we have ? A piston AR. Really? Oh well, to each his own.
A few months ago I was talking to a Ruger sales rep in a gun store and he told me that he had seen a prototype pump a few years ago. I love my Rugers but I sometimes think lunacy runs rampant at corporate. i.e. where are all those Gold Labels. I think that was gun of the year a few back by some prominant gun magazine. Alas they don't really exist. So what DO we have ? A piston AR. Really? Oh well, to each his own.
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There have been pump shotguns as well as semi-autos shotguns made and shown years back. For whatever reason Bill Ruger wasn't pleased enough to put them into production. I do recall he once stated that he wanted a new design and not just a copy of an existing design. The Gold Labels... they did enter production put production costs and some production issues never were improved enough to continue production. It's a dead model.
Seen 'em and they one of THE nicest SxS's I've ever handled. Foolishily passed on it at the time. The AR...it's called business. You go where the interest is and that market while flooded is a huge one. Makes perfect sense actually. Now go back a couple posts and re-read my previous one carefully.
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while the high end tacticals are being purchased by professionals and others who can afford them there is a market for us nonpros who can't. a simple to use , hicapacity , fast handling 410 or 12 for the home protector, it doesn't have to be fancy or cutting edge innovation it just has to be dependable and economical . it's ruger or the chinaman
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