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Your CCW had a malfunction... what do you do to regain trust?

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Hopefully as armed citizens we're all practicing regularly with our carry weapons.

Suppose you're at the range using self defense ammo... and you get a failure to extract, or maybe a stove pipe.. or maybe the gun double feeds - WHATEVER - but the bang button didn't make the gun go bang.

What is your policy/procedure for gaining trust and in the weapon? Do you have a certain number of rounds that must run clean before you'd put it back into service? At what point would the frequency of a malfunction cause you to shelve a gun and tag it out of service?
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........ if I experience a pistol malfunction my process is a little more thorough than to shoot one more round and declare "I guess it works!".

I'd need a bit more in order to feel confident I can defend myself from evil. Generally I'd like to see the gun run at least a box of FMJ and then perhaps a couple magazines of whatever I'm using for self defense without any more hiccups.

Suppose you replace a part? How much testing might that new part need before you're satisfied it's set to go? Are there any parts that you feel would need or warrant more thorough testing than others?
"I guess it works!" doesn't work for me either. It doesn't take that long to be sure. Most pistol problems are the ammo, extractor, magazine, or springs. The only failures I've ever had were a broken transfer bar on an LCR, and a broken trigger spring on a different LCR. So much for revolvers being more depedable, LOL.

A new part or magazine get the same treatment. Two loadings with no problem, I'm happy.
I try to vet semi-autos by firing at least a hundred rounds of ball ammo and 50 rounds of carry ammo. I also try to induce problems by randomly inserting an inert round in the magazine. If you carry a semi-auto, you should practice clearing a malfunction, just saying. That's the reason I usually carry a revolver, but not always. (I also love my 1911s)
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I would stop trusting only if the incident repeats itself after a cleaning and maybe an ammo switch. I carry a S&W 442. If it all of a sudden started light striking, first I would give it a good cleaning. If it still did it, I would try another brand of ammo. If it still happened it would be fixing time.
Would depend upon the situation.

Failure to feed or eject: Was it a single round? If multiple rounds, am I using a new ammo at time of failure?
I have had firearms reject certain types of bullets such as those with rubber coatings. I note the manufacturer when that happens and check to see if issue occurs with other ammo. If no issues with other ammo, I just know not to use that particular ammo.

Oh, check the seating of the magazine. Any issues with the magazine such as not locking in properly or dropping randomly?

Quality and reputation of ammo are both important, too. Just remember that even good manufacturers sometimes have bad examples of outcomes. I learned this in October 2021 myself when I had a factory round explode in my firearm damaging both the extractor and barrel. That was with my firearm that I used as my concealed carry weapon which at the time was a Taurus TCP PT-738. Ammo manufacturer replaced the ammo and confirmed an issue with the batch of 380 ACP.

Another thought is a firearm may seem great on paper, but actual use may reveal features or characteristics that one may not like in their firearm. Perhaps you have to break your grip to operate some of the functions. Perhaps the trigger or handgrip is uncomfortable when practicing. Perhaps the firearm has a peculiar disassembly process. Bottom line, if you find you do not like something about the firearm, should it be a conceal carry choice? My personal experience says this is not likely.

Here's my final thoughts - it depends upon the totality of the circumstances. I would not look at a single issue but rather an overall evaluation of the performance of the firearm in general. Also, consider the reasons for the failure, any damage that may have required repair, turnaround time of repair, brand reputation for customer service, and your acceptance of risk of not having a firearm if your concealed carry firearm fails.

For that Taurus TCP, I was lucky that the Taurus TCP could be repaired, but there were fewer parts being made for that firearm by Taurus. The TCP did go bang once repaired. However, both the facts that parts would be hard to find in the future from Taurus and that 380 ACP ammo was also difficult to find at the time were the deciding factors to consider replacing my conceal carry. I ended up changing over to a Ruger Max-9 for my conceal carry for a more common caliber (9mm) and the fact it carried more rounds.
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I do nothing special.
Anything built by humans is subject to a failure at any time.

I've had my CCW 15+yrs and never a failure (yet),
so, if I was to have one, I would l clear it and continue to shoot.
If it repeats, then I would go looking for the issue, if it does not repeat, I would have no further concerns.

ETA: I would not lose confidence in my ccw because one failure.
This right here ☝🏾
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I do nothing special.
Anything built by humans is subject to a failure at any time.

I've had my CCW 15+yrs and never a failure (yet),
so, if I was to have one, I would l clear it and continue to shoot.
If it repeats, then I would go looking for the issue, if it does not repeat, I would have no further concerns.

ETA: I would not lose confidence in my ccw because one failure.
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It’s not fair that ammo malfunctions are called gun malfunctions. If you carry a semi you should probably know the difference before making any decisions. Not that I can tell them apart though.
If a pistol, was it the mag or the gun?

If the gun, repair it.

If the mag, replace it.

A couple of hundred rounds after the problem is addressed and I'm good to go.
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Trust is gained through experiance. You just shoot your chosen gun over and over again to practice with it. I have guns that have been flawless at the range. I poked fun at a fellow forum member but he brought up a good point. You don't obsess with the possibility of a failure but you should plan for it. Everybody has a plan until something goes wrong then you don't. Any mechanical device can fail and eventually will. You may not reach thae breaking point but it's out there. Bad ammo or adverse conditions like stress can induce a failure. Test your gun under ideal conditions but try to practice under and for less than ideal conditions.
Good advice. The key points made are "any mechanical device can fail and eventually will" and "don't obsess with the possibility of a failure but you should plan for it".

That is why practicing clearing your weapon and practicing magazine changes are important.
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This is why I carry a revolver ...
Revolvers can fail too.
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You ask about process, so here is mine.
First failure - move on and ignore it if it doesn't repeat within 20-25 rounds (or the rest of the visit).
Second failure (within reason) try a different ammo; if I think the gun is dirty, clean it and watch for it again. I don't let my guns get dirty enough to cause malfunctions, except maybe my .22LR semis
Failure persists after that, it is time to diagnose based on the type of failure. I've only gotten this far with someone else's gun, and cleaning and lubing fixed it so really not then either.
NOTE: sometimes the failure is the shooter. Not really talking limp wristing, but if you grip a gun the wrong way, you can cause it to malfunction. If that turned out to be the case, I would not lose trust in the gun. I may lose trust in the gun in my hands until I fix what I am doing wrong
Assuming I locate the problem (recoil spring, extractor, mag, etc), I would correct it, test between 50-100 rounds and call it good.
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When my EDC won't go bang that means that it's time to reload. Hope and pray that I never need to use more than a couple rounds should ever have to use it in self defense. Wheel guns forever. I do carry a Shield Plus now and then and I've never had it stop going bang unless the mag is empty.

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One of the reasons I clean after (every time) I've shot it. Clean and inspect everything. Only problems, trouble I've had is ammo. Always carry extra mags.
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Revolvers can fail too.
You are correct, but the chances of failure with a wheelgun is a very small percentage of a semi malfunction, no?
In MY hands, a revolver is going to fail more often than a semi auto
In MY hands, a revolver is going to fail more often than a semi auto
I don’t think so. Shirley, you‘re being facetious.
I don’t think so. Shirley, you‘re being facetious.
No, I really suck with a revolver. And reloading one... toss it aside and grab a loaded one is my best option
I own a Glock. I’ll let you know if it ever fails.
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