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LCP II 22LR Question

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#1 ·
I have a new LCP 22LR and it works with no problems. However, it is almost impossible to manually cycle ammo through the pistol. Obviously, this is not a problem since the pistol operates correctly when fired. I am just curious if ther is a reason for this. Thanks.
 
#3 ·
I haven't really tried emptying the magazine through the action if thats what you are doing... Mine chambers a round every time even if I "guide" the slide.. Next time i have the pistol in hand I will try and hand cycle some rounds through it...bob
 
#4 ·
Ok, yeah I see what you mean.. Went and got mine just out of curiosity.
Tried dry cycling it and it made a tangled mess.. I personally won't try it again. I have some guns that will run round after round through the ejection port by hand, and some that won't.. this little one won't it seems. I guess we'll have to be happy to just run them the way they were meant to be run .

bob
 
#6 ·
It just jammed up bad,,
With some semi autos, you have to hold the gun in a way that the rounds can get out of the eject port, I dunno kind of upside down, but it just didn't seem this gun wants to do it.. It doesn't matter the gun runs fine at the range, but I wouldn't make a habit of "dry cycling" it, if thats even a thing.. Not going to keep trying and bend or break something. bob
 
#7 ·
As "beebee" said, it is a tangled mess. I think it is mostly a failure to pull the cartridge from the chamber, and then another attempts to load. Again, this is not a problem as long as the gun works. It is just curious.

Thanks for the replies.
 
#9 ·
Of course thats the correct way to do it..

Like myself the OP may have other guns that can be cleared round after round through the ejection port and that was his reference point .. This particular gun won't do it.. Like a blockhead I tried it again, after saying I wouldn't, and got the same mess.. Man those .22 rounds tangle up pretty good.

I have too much time on my hands, and shouldn't be possibly damaging a perfectly good gun "just because":mad:... bob
 
#11 ·
22 is like that. That’s one reason why it’s not the best carry gun on the planet because the cases are so long and thin with a tiny Rim for the ejector to grab. I’ve had a 22 walther ppk s for 30 years And those kind of problems all too common. When everything is just so they work splendidly but when anything gets out of whack a bit oh so much harder to solve and then any centerfire. At least with mine you’ve got to find something it likes to eat and give it a steady diet or you’ll be clearing rather frequently.
On the other hand those 22 Besides being cheap make great practice for clearing drills in case the real thing happens


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#14 ·
I just replaced the extractor, plunger and spring on my 380 LCP II and the extractor is very sharp and a bit more slanted in from the side at rest. It initially grabbed on to every casing rim and would not let go easily which screwed up any attempt at manual feeding. I pulled the extractor parts and rubfit the edges where they interfaced then reinstalled with a tiny drop of Hoppes9. Still sluggish manual feeding but better behavior if I really yanked back the slide. Took it to the range and no extraction problems, running nicely.

The LCP II .22LR extractor is quite different and longer . Maybe it just needs to run in some roughness on the extractor. I have no trouble with manual cycling on mine.

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#15 ·
The procedure to empty a pistol is to first remove the magazine then rack the slide so the extractor can do its one and only job to grab the round from the chamber should there be one. The extractor is not intended to unload a magazine full of rounds. The op says the gun functions fine when firing rounds (where the extractor plays no part) so my take is the gun is working as designed.
 
#16 ·
The pistol shoots and fires like it should. To manually cycle .22 long rifle will damage the ammunition, possibly to where it will malfunction. The case is thin brass. The bullet is soft lead. It is cool to manually cycle ammo in a gun, but if I ever do that, I save the manually cycled ammo for range practice only.
 
#17 ·
Blowback Action Extractor

Your LCP II .22 is a blowback action semi-automatic. The extractor doesn't do anything except extract a cartridge when unloading a loaded round. I shot NRA Hunter Silhouette with a guy who had a Ruger Mk. II with a broken extractor that was almost totally gone. Been missing for years. Gun cycled fine except you had to shoot it empty.
 
#23 ·
If you cannot manual cycle, then if you have a dud and try to rack the slide you get a jam. After looking at the problem, the tip of the bullet is still in the chamber as the extractor tries to turn and eject the case. This lock up the slide. With just a case that is shorter, the ejector turns the case and eject. The ejector is too long, or Ruger did not plan on manual cycling. Mac
 
#29 ·
So... I took a look at my LCPII in 22 with a round in the mag inserted. The nose of the bullet was level with the chamber which for the most part makes the ramp a needless entity. It may also explain why extracting a round manually with more rounds in the mag is problematic in that the next round in the mag exerts too much upward pressure on the round being extracted resulting in a jam.

By comparison in my LCPII .380 the round in a mag is more inline with the ramp allowing more room for the round being manually extracted to slide over the next round in the mag.
 
#35 ·
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#36 ·
Got the spring kit minus trigger replacement. Holding the aluminum frame and all those teeny boingy parts together to get it back in the polymer frame is a patience challenge.

I'll see how it runs next time out to a range.

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