[Beemer606]

I got the LCP Max back this morning with the new trigger. I took it over to the range to see if there was any improvement. It is definitely better. Not 100% but better. I only ran a dozen shots through it so not conclusive test results. I'll try and go again later this week for more testing.

 

[217jerrym]

new trigger design

Does the new trigger look ant different? Just curious, why didn't you opt for a M-Carbo or Galloway trigger?

 

[docnsx01]

I am novice here ,, I had issue with the lcp max wiht trigger irritation ( I initially thought it was shooter error as I was truly a nubie) but after reading here and learning from you guys I was happy to see I wasn't alone, since the pistol is not a high priced firearm I decided to try my gunsmithing and enhance the gun. I ordered all the macabre goodies and took it slow and watched the videos over and over and stopped at each step.. trigger, spring kit, mag release spring , recoil springs, and stainless steel guide rod, take down pin, and added a 18400 house grip that needed zero mods ( have phot if requested ) and the Pearce pinky extension ,, well now I have as much accuracy at 25 feet as I do with my Wilson combat tuned from wilson p365, the gun is night and day diff and cost me about 100$ in total and 2 hour of my time taking it slowly, only casualty was first step ironically when you pop out the base plate of the handle I pushed too hard and broke the plastic tab , ordered two from tiger as they were 4$ and 6$ to ship so I ordered to for the same 6$ shipping as back up. so if the new trigger design Fromm ruger doesn't work then by all means try the mcarbo stuff, it will make difference and you will have a great pocket gun to carry

 

[Beemer606]

Does the new trigger look ant different? Just curious, why didn't you opt for a M-Carbo or Galloway trigger?

It may be a little wider but I'm not sure as I don't have the original to compare. That was my initial thought though as soon as I picked it up. As far as not opting for one of the aftermarket triggers, why should I have to shell out $75 to replace a defective trigger in a brand new gun? Ruger should make it right and it appears they did. At least I hope they did. I'll probably go to the range Friday to confirm that it is better. As far as pull weight and crisp break, I am good with it. I don't need or want a 2-3lb trigger in a carry gun.

I've read where some have complained about accuracy with the LCP Max but that is not an issue with mine. I can break a stationary clay at 7 yds with this pistol so the sights are dead on. The gun is probably more accurate than I am. Since it's a carry gun, I doubt I'll ever have to use it, especially at any distance greater than a few yards.

Overall I really like this gun. It is small, lightweight, holds 10-12 rounds, and has an easy to grip slide. It's easy to forget that it's on your belt or in your pocket.

One other thought I have about this trigger is maybe the problem is not with the trigger after all. Maybe the problem is with the fingers pulling the trigger. Is it possible that the people complaining about trigger bite are older folks with skin that is not as elastic as a younger persons skin? I'm 73 and I know that if I push my thumbnail into the pad of my trigger finger, the skin does not bounce back for a few seconds. This is the only pistol I have with the trigger blade and the only firearm that has given me trigger bite. Just a thought.

 

[Beemer606]

Does the new trigger look ant different? Just curious, why didn't you opt for a M-Carbo or Galloway trigger?

It may be a little wider but I'm not sure as I don't have the original to compare. That was my initial thought though as soon as I picked it up. As far as not opting for one of the aftermarket triggers, why should I have to shell out $75 to replace a defective trigger in a brand new gun? Ruger should make it right and it appears they did. At least I hope they did. I'll probably go to the range Friday to confirm that it is better. As far as pull weight and crisp break, I am good with it. I don't need or want a 2-3lb trigger in a carry gun.

I've read where some have complained about accuracy with the LCP Max but that is not an issue with mine. I can break a stationary clay at 7 yds with this pistol so the sights are dead on. The gun is probably more accurate than I am. Since it's a carry gun, I doubt I'll ever have to use it, especially at any distance greater than a few yards.

Overall I really like this gun. It is small, lightweight, holds 10-12 rounds, and has an easy to grip slide. It's easy to forget that it's on your belt or in your pocket.

One other thought I have about this trigger is maybe the problem is not with the trigger after all. Maybe the problem is with the fingers pulling the trigger. Is it possible that the people complaining about trigger bite are older folks with skin that is not as elastic as a younger persons skin? I'm 73 and I know that if I push my thumbnail into the pad of my trigger finger, the skin does not bounce back for a few seconds. This is the only pistol I have with the trigger blade and the only firearm that has given me trigger bite. Just a thought.

 

[docnsx01]

I understand not having a desire to change an already functional gun ? But nobody has ever modded a car ? Wheels, tune, exhaust , radio ( I know we all have upped ante on radios back in day lol) , adding sights , red dots etc to firearms , changing straps on a watch , aftermarket enhancements is what makes the world go around . It is not as if something is wrong with gun out of box bc these issues I had did not occur for everyone ( my hand size , my trigger grip , abd my overall shooting ability was most to blame ) did sone research decided to give it try ( trigger alone us adjustable to for the take up etc ) so I just made it more personal abd still with added cost it is less then a standard p365 380 if you want to compare apples to apples .
I agree it should be better out of box and if ruger said they changed the trigger design then should let others know .
Loking forward to hearing outcome at range and hoping you have inprovement

 

[Beemer606]

Yeah nothing wrong with making modifications. I've done so on other firearms. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the trigger bite issue and figured it's Ruger's responsibility to make it right.

 

[Higgy Baby]

shoots 2-3 inches low at 7 yards.

On shooting low- this may help some of you.
On tiny guns like the LCP Max- it just may not fit your hand. That is- your hand may be too big for that gun.

Test: if you shoot low with the Max- try to take a couple shots with your pinky finger poking straight out. It will be awkward- but try it. If you POI goes up- then bingo. That will mean that the grip is too short for your hand. There is no support for the back side of the grip, and it rotates up into the hollow of the palm as your pinky puts pressure on the front of the grip (or the trigger).
My Max came with a pinky extender. I tried that- shooting low gets worse.

Some of us just need guns with longer grips.......

 

[217jerrym]

Good food for thought Higgy

 

[Beemer606]

Finally got back to the range today and I'm sorry to report that the new trigger Ruger put in this gun is not much better than the original one that came with it. I had a friend shoot it and he said the same thing about the trigger bite. He handed it back after five shots. I'm not sure if I want to keep this gun. It's main purpose is a carry gun, not a range toy, so I won't be shooting it that much other than for a couple of mags once in a while to keep familiar with it.

 

[docnsx01]

Finally got back to the range today and I'm sorry to report that the new trigger Ruger put in this gun is not much better than the original one that came with it. I had a friend shoot it and he said the same thing about the trigger bite. He handed it back after five shots. I'm not sure if I want to keep this gun. It's main purpose is a carry gun, not a range toy, so I won't be shooting it that much other than for a couple of mags once in a while to keep familiar with it.

I think if I remember if it is the mcarbo you can adjust the take up which may lead to less movement of your finger as you pull trigger ..yes I agree that there should be zero issues with a firearm bc you usually don’t get any reason time of need . May want to look at p365 380 if that’s the caliber you want and I pocket my standard 365 9mm in vedder pocket with minimal issues ( prob other limit of pocket carry) just an option.

 

[Argee1950]

Finally got back to the range today and I'm sorry to report that the new trigger Ruger put in this gun is not much better than the original one that came with it. I had a friend shoot it and he said the same thing about the trigger bite. He handed it back after five shots. I'm not sure if I want to keep this gun. It's main purpose is a carry gun, not a range toy, so I won't be shooting it that much other than for a couple of mags once in a while to keep familiar with it.

I had a myriad of issues with with my original. LCP Max..so much so that Ruger agreed to trade me out of it for a LC380 which I'm very happy with. Still wanting a the LCP Max size pistol a year later (a couple of weeks ago) I purchased the 75th Anniversary Edition which comes with a stainless slide and a wider, flatter trigger. Seems this edition has all the problems worked out of it.

 

[Beemer606]

The whole appeal of the LCP Max is the size and weight. It has other nice features such as capacity, sights, and a decent trigger for those not affected by the "bite", but the main thing is size and weight. I wish Ruger wold trade me out of it but I asked and they declined. I guess I'm stuck with it.

 

[Argee1950]

The whole appeal of the LCP Max is the size and weight. It has other nice features such as capacity, sights, and a decent trigger for those not affected by the "bite", but the main thing is size and weight. I wish Ruger wold trade me out of it but I asked and they declined. I guess I'm stuck with it.

If it's the trigger bite that's got you down..Galloway and Mcarbo offer the wider trigger for it.

 

[kazgorat]

The whole appeal of the LCP Max is the size and weight. It has other nice features such as capacity, sights, and a decent trigger for those not affected by the "bite", but the main thing is size and weight. I wish Ruger wold trade me out of it but I asked and they declined. I guess I'm stuck with it.

Having had my LCP Max for a couple of months now, I thought I would weigh back in. First of all, I have found that if I pull the trigger using the first joint on my index finger instead of the pad of my finger, I no longer get trigger bite. I have been doing this the last 100 rounds, and no bite. I also switched to better ammo (Speer Lawman 380) and I was able to improve my accuracy considerably. I am guessing I am probably just getting better at shooting the pistol as well .

This will never be a pistol that I am going to practice shooting at 25 yards, but I am finding it can be quite serviceable at 7 yards. I went from wanting to throw it in the trash to, as of this morning, being pleasantly surprised at the range.

I have probably 350 rounds through the pistol, FMJ and HP, and zero malfunctions.

YMMV.

 

[Bee111]

Well, I picked up my new Ruger LCP Max pistol last Friday and took it to the range on Saturday. What a disappointment. This pistol consistently shoots 2-3 inches low at 7 yards.

So the first 100 rounds were all low. For the last 50 rounds, I held the sights so that the front sight was about 3/16 above the back sight line, and the pistol would then hit where it was pointing fairly consistently.

Then to top it off, I ended up with a blood blister due to trigger bite.

After the range trip, I did some searching on the internet, and apparently these two problems are very common complaints with the LCP Max. Buyer beware.

And before anyone starts saying user error, I also had my original LCP with me at the range, which is smaller and has a much more challenging trigger, and I had no problems hitting on target when I did my part.

I called Ruger customer service, and they basically blew me off saying 99% of pistols sent in for this problem are returned with "problem not duplicated". Sounds like they are getting a lot of calls on this.

I have owned quite a few Rugers: Orginal LCP, SR9c, 9mm LCR, LC9. Each one was a quality pistol with no real issues out of the box. Not this one. My experience with my LCP Max has not been good, and I will be cutting my losses and trading it in for something else.

If you are considering buying a LCP Max, I strongly suggest doing some significant searching on all of the forums for all of the complaints about this pistol, and then decide whether you really want to roll the dice. Shame on me for not doing my research, but I have never had a problem with Ruger firearms until now.

Little snappy pistols like this have their downside. The upside out weights the issues. For a range session use some tape on that finger and there is a way to eliminate some of the rub and pinch. A band aide and the little guy won't hurt you.

I shot mine poorly the first magazine. Low and left. I go oh know, its off. I remember my fundamentals and the next mag on target. Two to three inches low at 7 yards. Its a 3 to 7 yard pistol. You shooting long range. 3/16" high to hit on target. Your hitting the ceiling at 25 yards. This is a pocket pistol. Its working fine.

 

[Bee111]

I am novice here ,, I had issue with the lcp max wiht trigger irritation ( I initially thought it was shooter error as I was truly a nubie) but after reading here and learning from you guys I was happy to see I wasn't alone, since the pistol is not a high priced firearm I decided to try my gunsmithing and enhance the gun. I ordered all the macabre goodies and took it slow and watched the videos over and over and stopped at each step.. trigger, spring kit, mag release spring , recoil springs, and stainless steel guide rod, take down pin, and added a 18400 house grip that needed zero mods ( have phot if requested ) and the Pearce pinky extension ,, well now I have as much accuracy at 25 feet as I do with my Wilson combat tuned from wilson p365, the gun is night and day diff and cost me about 100$ in total and 2 hour of my time taking it slowly, only casualty was first step ironically when you pop out the base plate of the handle I pushed too hard and broke the plastic tab , ordered two from tiger as they were 4$ and 6$ to ship so I ordered to for the same 6$ shipping as back up. so if the new trigger design Fromm ruger doesn't work then by all means try the mcarbo stuff, it will make difference and you will have a great pocket gun to carry

You got a Wilson tuned P365. Your no nubie.

 

[docnsx01]

You got a Wilson tuned P365. Your no nubie.

Yes I am , June is year anniversary of obtaining ccw. I’m the guy that prob after one golf lesson (I don’t play ) would go buy the best most expensive custom club set lol.
my daughter who played div 1 softball , throughout her younger years and all the training and gloves,bats , etc a wise older coach told her “ot is not the bow and arrow but the person (being politically correct) using the bow and arrow . Which could easily translate into this world as well !
Maybe my term should be newlywed?

 

[foxonthetrail]

Mine has a different problem. When I first got it took it to the range and after a few rounds through it it wasn't going into battery after a shot not a lot and you could smack it and it would finish going in. Sent back to Ruger and they replaced the barrel and extractor spring. Came back and less than 20 rounds through it started doing the same thing and then just quit altogether. Pull the trigger and it would click but no bang. Sent it back and after several weeks came back. No explanation but it worked. Took to the range a few times and no problem. Took it to the range last Tuesday and after about 50 rounds it started not going into battery completely again. I've contacted Ruger and waiting to hear from them.

I experienced something similar. I replaced the guide rod with a steel guide rod that I found on eBay and never had an issue again.

 

[yicpvr]

Little snappy pistols like this have their downside. The upside out weights the issues. For a range session use some tape on that finger and there is a way to eliminate some of the rub and pinch. A band aide and the little guy won't hurt you.

I shot mine poorly the first magazine. Low and left. I go oh know, its off. I remember my fundamentals and the next mag on target. Two to three inches low at 7 yards. Its a 3 to 7 yard pistol. You shooting long range. 3/16" high to hit on target. Your hitting the ceiling at 25 yards. This is a pocket pistol. Its working fine.

I completely agree!! It’s a ‘pocket pistol’ and really good within a 10 yard range. I solved the trigger pinch problem by purchasing and installing the M Carbo trigger. (It’s a bit tricky). Also purchased/installed the ss guide rod and take down pin. Purchased an ‘Alabama’ pocket holster and the little bugger is with me always. 12+1 in the gun w a 12rd backup mag in my weak side pocket. Perfect pocket carry pistol!! 🤗 (I also practice around the house with a laser cartridge for accuracy.)