[drumb0621]

When it comes to internet personalities, YankeeMarshall is definitely a bit of an oddball. But I'll grant that we have seen a fall off of quality control throughout the firearm industry as of late. Some guns leaving factories have significant cosmetic faults, let alone actual mechanical ones that compromise functionality. The extended wait times for warranty work based upon the volume of that work coming in is discouraging for the end user waiting to get their gun, that should've been right from the start, back.

Edit: Here's an example, though thankfully these are both cosmetic issues.

This dude is HR Funk. His videos are generally pretty plain, but very honest.

 

[89bruin]

The problem I have with this is methodology. Ok, the pencil moves. What does that really mean? Even if the trigger will pull with the slide slightly out of battery is the primer of a chambered round in line with the firing pin or is the barrel still tilted enough so it’s out of alignment. Most of this is little more than conjecture and guess-work at this point. Again, I think if this were a real issue we would be seeing mass reports of KBs with M&P pistols which, to my knowledge, we’re not.

S&W has a HUGE interest in making sure they have safe and reliable products out there. If there’s a problem you can bet your entire ammo stash they’ll issue a recall or safety advisory. Until that point I’ll shoot on.

 

[Bonk]

S&W has a HUGE interest in making sure they have safe and reliable products out there. If there’s a problem you can bet your entire ammo stash they’ll issue a recall or safety advisory.

I don't know if there's an issue with M&P pistols or not. However, I'm not so sure S&W would do the right thing. Look how Remington handled the model 700 trigger issue. Deny, deny, deny for decades and then settle out of court with NDAs for everyone involved. It's all about money. If there's an issue with M&P pistols S&W will take the the course of action that costs the least amount of money. It's also very unlikely their corporate lawyers will let them acknowledge a manufacturing/design flaw that's a safety issue unless the public outcry and liability is so large they have no other choice. Again, I refer you to how Remington handled the M700 trigger issue.

I am not a YM fan at all. I stopped watching his stuff years ago but in this particular video he's more reasonable and measured in his commentary than usual.

 

[tghowe]

I stopped watching his vids years ago. There isn't a Handgun out there that he hasn't whined about.

Same here. I was entertained by his earlier stuff, but now he's just hard to stomach. Maybe it has something to do with his local?

 

[hlg]

I'd never heard of nor seen this guy before.

And, within the first 60-seconds, I could tell he's rather full of himself; it's all me, me, me .....

 

[Donn]

Regarding the YM vids, a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now & then. Watching the vid prompted me to check my M&Ps. My Shield 9 was doing exactly what was shown. In fairness, it was said that this out of battery condition happens during rapid fire. I've never rapid fired mine in all the years I've had it, but that's not to say I'll never need to. Took it in the following morning.

 

[yavapaisam]

Smith & Wesson achieved decades ago, what I believe no other US gun maker did - they became aerospace certified. If they can design and build man-rated parts I'm sure their firearms are adequate and build standards and quality standards are far beyond any other maker in the USA.

I notice very little manufacturing understanding or experience among streaming video "expert yammerers" when it comes down to it.

"Everyone wants a perfect product everytime, very few are willing to pay for it. "

 

[petergunn]

Personality aside if what he claims is true it needs vetted and then a % of risk determined.

 

[Rumor865]

I found this post interesting and Educative.

 

[Scswolf]

I don’t know if there is an issue or not.
Just from my experiences (30+ yrs in the pharma and medical device industries) it’s very rare that a manufacturer discovers, acknowledges, and properly addresses a defect in their product.
It almost always starts with end users, and then works its way up the ladder, and may end up as nothing, or a minor issue that’s addressed on an as needed basis, or as a real problem that needs to be addressed on a wide scale (recalls, etc)
And yes, as noted in a post above, the bean counters and lawyers will ultimately determine the course of action, if any is needed.

 

[SouthernGuns]

The YouTube “star”, who is a Smith lover, apparently isn’t happy.
(Possible issues with the M&P, and problems with CS)

This guy is just plain hard to listen to. He would come across much better if he didn't post any youtubes.

 

[Funflyer]

Even if the trigger will pull with the slide slightly out of battery is the primer of a chambered round in line with the firing pin or is the barrel still tilted enough so it’s out of alignment.

I tested two of my M&P Shields, 9mm and 45. Both small and large primers will not fire with the barrel dropped .040". I did the test with just the slides in a vise so no frame components could interfere with a full hit from the strikers. I also used three different brands of small and four brands of large primers. Large primers were only 100% reliable with the barrel dropped .025" or less and small .030" or less. Both had the occasional fire at .035", but absolutely wouldn't fire at .040". I concluded that it does not matter if the striker is released at any point beyond that .040" barrel drop. At that point the barrel is only half way out of full lock-up which technically is still in battery since the cartridge remains fully supported and is in contact with the breech face.

I forgot to add that the tests were done with only primed cases, no powder or projectile obviously.

 

[flyboy61]

Smith & Wesson is not the only firearm that may fire out of Battery. I watched the video done by the fellow that sells the bushing that makes it easier to reassemble Ruger .22 autopistols.
At the close of the video, he pulled the bolt on his MKII (?) back maybe 1/8 inch, and pulled the trigger...maybe to avoid "dry firing"the gun? It worked for him , so I just had to try it with my MK II. It would fire. Of course, not one time since I bought it in the '90s has it failed, soooo...I guess I'll just shoot it and enjoy the experience. 😎

 

[blacktalon]

I stopped watching his vids years ago. There isn't a Handgun out there that he hasn't whined about.

Also, this jackass accused MrGunsNGear of stolen valor! He was in two different branches of special forces. This guy is a POS!

 

[jckeltz]

The YouTube “star”, who is a Smith lover, apparently isn’t happy.
(Possible issues with the M&P, and problems with CS)

Bloviating blow-hard, can't stand him. Plus he's a cop hater.

 

[Brandi]

I quit watching him when he accused a decorated wounded vet of stolen valor. YM is turd that hasn't quite been fully flushed yet. At the rate he's going, his YT career should be fully in the toilet soon.

 

[carpcon]

I their a written transcript of the content? I just simply cannot watch this guy talk and hand wave and rant. But I have that issue with several youtubers, news media people, maybe it is just me. I do own an M&P Shield, 9. Haven't heard much anything else but good about this particular pistol. Been good for me so far.
I was curious about just how many shields have been produced. Saw an article from 2014 showing S&W had produced 1 million M&P shields. Probably a few more since then. Seems to be long track record for reliability and longevity.

 

[maddmatter1970]

I am no fan of bad quality. But Q Public used to be a lot smarter. I remember owners manuals that skipped the "don't drink the antifreeze" warning and did include tips on adjusting your carburator and timing....

 

[Bill.68]

Ive seemed to have developed a sense of which of his videos to watch and which ones not to watch.
Hes from WV and you know how they are. I 😉