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Loaded Cartridges with moon clip stuck in pistol

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#1 · (Edited)
I've gotten myself into a pickle, and while I know a little about guns I know nothing about revolvers. I purchased for my wife a ruger revolver, and it came with some Moon Clips. I used this to load the revolver. But I want to take out the loaded cartridges and moon clips. How do I do this on a Ruger? The tutorials that I'm seeing online show easy unloading when the cartridges are spent, but mine are not and attached to a moon clip. How can I remove all loaded cartridges including the moon clip holding them?
 
#4 ·
Thanks for the responses. So I have a Ruger 9mm Luger. I can get the exact model number if needed, but it does look like the screenshot that I paste below.

So I tried to push in the ejector rod, and it does nothing. It's very firm in place. If you look at my screenshot below, the red arrow is the ejector rod I'm pushing in with no luck. The green arrow points to the unit that does press in slightly when I press it - not sure if that is helpful.

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I'm worried that I'm using the wrong cartridges, and as a result they are stuck? While the revolver explicitly says 'Luger', I'm not certain if the cartridges are 'lugers'. They are 9mm, and I use them in my Glock. If I need to take a screenshot of the cartridges let me know.
 
#7 ·
If your gun says 9mm, the 9mm rounds should be fine. Luger is just a specific length (9 X 19 mm). If the gun says .38 special or .357 magnum, you may have an issue (I couldn't read the caliber from your picture). The Ruger LCR comes in all three calibers.

Can you reach in with a fingernail and pull the rounds out 1 at a time? Tapping the ejector rod should push the moon clip and the rounds out with it, but if that isn't happening, you need to get them out safely.
 
#9 ·
The cartridges are fine. I can read the 9mm Luger headstamp in your picture. I think a good smack on the ejector rod with the palm of your hand should pop everything out. A grain of sand or something is likely binding one of the cartridges in a chamber.
 
#12 ·
The good news is, as long as the cylinder is swung open you are "safe". This isn't one of those gun situations where a live cartridge is stuck in a chamber.
 
#13 ·
Hey everyone: just wanted to say that I had to tap on that ejector rod for 10 plus taps, but it finally pushed through - and the cartridges were spent!

Is there some maintenance that I should be doing to not have to bring a hammer with me to the range (haha)?

I'll post photos of the cartridges that I'm using to make sure that I'm not using the wrong size for this revolver.
 
#61 ·
You just have a stiff new gun with close tolerances.

A drop of oil on that ejector rod and work it back and forth fifty times and add another drop of oil.

Cleaning the chambers with Hoppes #9 and a brush is a good idea with a new gun.

I think you're on your way to good shooting.
 
#14 ·
I'm confused. First post you said they were unfired and now they were spent. You forgot you'd fired the revolver, or your wife took her gun to the range and didn't unload the spent casings after firing.

Maybe they were cheap steel case ammo? Those can expand after firing and be a bitch to get out.
 
#15 ·
Make sure you clean the cylinders well. At least use a cleaner and patch. Using a brass brush would help if it gets real dirty. If REALLY dirty, you might want to put the brass brush in a drill and work it a little.

My go-to cleaner-lube is Hornady Oneshot Gun Cleaner (NOT the case lube of similar name). It cleans well and leaves a dry lube film which will not contaminate anything. So you can spray it on cylinders, barrels, firing pins, springs and it will not gum anything or attract dirt like wet lubes can. It comes in an aerosol can, so you can spray it into hard-to-reach places and not worry about build-up.
 
#17 · (Edited)
This thread has really piqued my curiosity. How can something so simple possibly be this complex?
It could be steel case or maybe even aluminum case ammo. I stupidly ran a box of aluminum case ammo through my Walther PPS before reading the manual which said "brass only" and sure enough it would not extract a spent case. I had to stick a dowel down the muzzle and hammer it fairly robustly.

No idea why the Walther chambers are so tight like that. Typically Germanic "pingelig" engineering and fanatical adherence to specs I guess. It's the most accurate pistol I own, so I won't complain.

Happens a lot too on the trap range. Winchester AAs are the only American "big three" shotshell still using a 100% brass head. Others that look like brass are a brass coated steel. I see a fair amount of guns that won't reliably eject anything except AAs. We keep a long wooden rod by each scoring chair for ATA shoots just because it happens so often, and we've got too many competitors to have a slow-down while someone finds a rod.
 
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#19 ·
Yeah hopefully it is a simple remedy to eject the moon clip.

In advice to the OP, don't be super rough with the revolver but don't be afraid to use some force. Guns are designed to contain explosions so don't be afraid to apply some gusto to get the problem fixed.

Good luck and keep us up to date.
 
#20 · (Edited)
I think what happened is the wife took the revolver out, shot all of the rounds, and then when she tried to push the ejector rod it just wouldn't budge. Then she brought it home to me, where I've all my life have just shot pistols or rifles and never revolvers, and when I tried it I too couldn't get it budged - so we both assumed it was jammed or we used wrong ammo. So then it sat there in one of our 16 ammo cases "take it down to the gun shop" todo list - and that was 13 months ago. I'm now trying to get this all figured out for her birthday. When I picked it up this morning, the revolver is so heavy I just figured it was live rounds so was super careful - and was trained to just always assume rounds are live to some extent.

Even though this revolver says "Luger" all over it, can I use any 9mm cartridge or do I need to explicitly buy "Lugers" for them to fit properly in here?

The 9mm rounds I had purchased 3,000 of them as I love running through them on my Glocks, so had just assumed they would work for the Ruger. I keep promising to take a photo of the rounds, and I'll post that tomorrow morning my time for clarity in case anyone comes across this later and finds value in the discussion.

I really appreciate everyone's quick feedback. This has been super helpful and saved me an embarrassing trip to my local gunsmith. He has enough troubles with me for my AR-10s, that I think this would make him laugh even more.
 
#22 · (Edited)
9mm lugar, 9x19, 9mm parabellum are all appropriate for the LCR in 9mm. This revolver has had a few instances of the unfired bullets “walking” out of the cases under recoil- some ammo is worse than others. This can lead to the cylinder being wedged closed. I don’t think that is what happened in your case though. Another possibility is that your moon clip was bent- I have had this happen to me with my S&W 442 pro moon clips. There are several forum members that have experience with this revolver, I think alonruger is one. Do a search for problems with your gun—I’m sure it will pop up.

welcome to the forum; it’s a great place to learn!
 
#27 ·
This revolver has had a few instances of the unfired bullets “walking” out of the cases under recoil- some ammo is worse than others. This can lead to the cylinder being wedged closed. I don’t think that is what happened in your case though.
Doesn't sound like it. He said the cylinder swung out and the cartridges were all fired. The cases just didn't eject.

My money is still on one of the following:
  • Steel case ammo
  • Aluminum case ammo
  • Overly hot "factory reloads" or some other crappy third-world country ammo
  • Really dirty chambers
 
#25 ·
Clean ,clean , clean the chambers .
You say you have 3000 roundsl of the stuff ,,,,,, are they reloads or re-manufactures ?
Then I would suggest trying a different kind of factory ammo or maybe a couple if you can find them.
If the sticking persists it may be time to call Ruger . It would not be the first time they sent out a gun with tight chambers.
Ejection should be smooth and easy anything else means SOMTHTNG is wrong.
 
#26 ·
Good luck with the Ruger. We are generally a supportive group, and there is a lot of love for revolvers here. I own only one semiauto, a 1911 in fact. My wife can rack and shoot it well, but she only keeps revolvers around herself. They are all I carry.

Just keep practicing and take a look at revolverguy.com for lots of tips about using wheel guns.
 
#29 ·
FeralCatKillr
I'm thinking the same as you on the Ammo
and for comparisons sake I had some Armscore 10mm stick like that in the GP100 10MM and tight, had to tap out with a dowl, the rest of the box shot fine through a SR1911 10MM, and all other types of ammo have been fine with no issues in the GP
 
#30 ·
I agree with feralcatkiller also, aside from the OP saying the gun "sat for over 13 months"? does not help either but "common sense" should prevail in a case like this, like looking down the face of the "swung out cylinder"??? please guns and ammo covers all sort of variations, styles ( pistols, revolvers, single shots, etc. Do not need a hammer at the range either, use the corner or top edge of the shooting bench, even a fence post nearby if outdoors.....also I read above he states the gun says "luger" all over it??? are we missing something here??? SAFETY FIRST....always, and as the Ruger Company states, :"Firearms responsibility".........;)
 
#31 ·
I have a Ruger SP101, it's a different model than your LCR, but also a Ruger revolver chambered in 9mm. I have had a single experience that mirrors yours. It turned out that the ammo I had gotten was poorly made, and the cases expanded in the cylinder as I fired. In my case the first 5 rounds got stuck like yours did (a good tap on the range bench got the moon clip out). Being foolish, I tried to run a second 5 rounds and the gun jammed (yes I jammed a revolver). I have never had a repeat of that experience, and it has never needed any form of repair. Final note, you may want to look at how much cleaning the barrel needs, as after my mishap, I discovered that it had created a lot of buildup in it from just 8 rounds.
 
#32 ·
I had a similar experience with a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk trying to use TulAmmo steel cased. I'd just bought the gun and all they had was that, gave it a go, all 6 rounds fired fine but I ended up having to take the gun home, remove the cylinder and use a pencil with a rubber mallet to pound the rounds out. As a side note if anyone wants to buy 44 rounds of 110 gr FMJ TulAmmo I've got a deal for you.