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Lowest recoil while being effective Lever Action

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#1 ·
I am just beginning to think about a lever action with a 16 or 20" barrel likely in 357. I had a Win 94 and loved the gun, just not shooting it for fun. I know, could have downloaded to 44 spec rounds, and i did for a 44 mag revolver i had at one time. It was my go to hunting rifle until I started routinely getting shots well beyond 100 yards and I moved to a 243 in a Remington 788. Oh, well, fast forward and adding a lot of age, I now use primarily single shots and hunt deer mostly with a Ruger No. 1 in 45-70 or 280 AI. Several years ago, I picked up the Mod 94 and started plinking with it with factory 240gr hp rounds. It just wasn't pleasant anymore. I don't even notice my 45-70 but that has a 28" bull barrel designed for lessening recoil which it does effectively.

So, back to the original question, I am starting to think of a plinking gun that doubles as a self defense rifle (with more than one shot) that i can reload easily that does not have a lot of recoil. For those of you who have one, is the 357 the charm. I really don't like semi-autos. I am curious-with the Win 1892 Short or a henry or even a marlin, how does the recoil of the 357 stack up compared to a 44 mag in the same gun or a 243 shooting a 100 gr bullet in a 24" bolt action rifle? Are the henry big boys good rifles or should I stay with the winny? Definitely don't want to go any further north of $1,000 than I have to. Already have a flippin fortune in my single shots. Thanks for your thoughts.
 
#3 ·
I used to shoot Marlin 1894 carbines in both 357 and 44 mag. There was quite a difference in recoil. The 357 was pure pleasure to shoot with standard 158 grain factory loads, making you want to reload and keep shooting, whereas factory 44 mag loads in that light carbine were more like a bucking bronco. Got old pretty quick.

I never used the 357 Marlins for hunting deer, but I have friends who use their 357 Henrys for deer and they do quite well when keeping shots under 100 yards.
 
#7 ·
I used to shoot Marlin 1894 carbines in both 357 and 44 mag. There was quite a difference in recoil. The 357 was pure pleasure to shoot with standard 158 grain factory loads, making you want to reload and keep shooting, whereas factory 44 mag loads in that light carbine were more like a bucking bronco. Got old pretty quick.

I never used the 357 Marlins for hunting deer, but I have friends who use their 357 Henrys for deer and they do quite well when keeping shots under 100 yards.
Definitely my experience with the 44 mag. I like heavy rifles-they just set in my hand better. I am no longer walking 10-20 miles a day hunting in the mountains. Heavy rifles get old then quickly. The mod 94 was a great rifle, just too light for the recoil for fun shooting. This won’t be a deer rifle, got that covered.
 
#8 ·
I have a 357 mag 1894 Marlin and recoil is negligible with even hot 357s. My wife loves to plink with it using 38 spc reloads, in the Marlin the 38s feel like shooting .22s and is just a blast. I think the 357 would make an excellent home defense gun. I've also owned 357 Rossi's and they've been excellent tools as well. The finishing isn't up to Marlin or Winchester snuff but they've been reliable and decently accurate for a pistol caliber lever gun. My choice I'd get an 1894 Marlin if I could find one, if a cheaper option was needed I'd go not feel undergunned with the Rossi. Comparing recoil, the 1894 with 125 gn Hornady American Gunner blue box is insignificant compared to my 788 in 243.
 
#10 ·
My .357 marlin 94 has ugly wood but it is pre safety and one I'll own till i die.
 
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I own and highly recommend the Henry Big Boy Steel rifle in .357 Magnum.
Mine is very well made and lovely to look at, and it adds to its mystique by shooting tight groups.
Mine is light enough to be handy and heavy enough to feel solid.

Recoil is not much of a factor even with full house pistol loads.
And I like having a rifle and a pistol in the same caliber. That's a Ruger NM Blackhawk in the
picture below.
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And here's the kicker: The .357 Mag might seem like your grandfather's pistol round in the 21st century when all the
cool people (and plenty of idjits) are shooting 9mm. But if you haven't heard about Hornady's Lever Evolution ammunition,
you owe it to yourself to look it up. Hornady invented rounds for lever rifles using pointed bullets with polymer tips.
So these are safe to load in a tubular magazine, and the pointed bullets give the lever rifle a whole new lease on life
in our modernistic times. Hornady loads 140 grain pointed bullets in their .357 Lever Evolution ammunition, and out of a
rifle barrel the velocity is a lot higher than from a pistol. Plus the pointed bullet gives a flatter trajectory and thus more
reach. They also have done wonders for the venerable 30-30 (and other lever rounds) and with Hornady's ammo
all those millions of Winchester 94 rifles also get a new lease on life too.

Hard to beat IMHO... that's why I bought my Henry. I wouldn't hesitate to hunt deer with this rifle, out to 100 yds or a bit more.
Made in USA, short, handy and hard hitting... .357 Magnum Ammo just disappeared during the ammo panic of2021/2022
and it's only just beginning to be visible again. Prices are still too high, but I found some Hornady Lever Evolution ammo
(finally) and was able to order online and receive it at home. ( I live in Michigan).

This rifle does all of what the OP was thinking he wanted. I haven't tried shooting .38 specials with it, but I have some
and therefore I will.
 
#21 ·
I watched my Uncle kill several Deer with a model 92 Winchester in 32-20 .
He taught me to shoot with it and I was only 10-11 years old and it was fun ... it wasn't punishing to shoot .
The lever gun I bought for myself was a Model 94 in 30-30 . I reload for it and can down-load the 30-30 to 32-20 ballistics ... but the 32-20 Model 92 was slicker and handier ... I wish I had one now that I'm older too !
Gary
 
#22 ·
For those of you reloading for a henry or Rossi (I don't know if they are different than a marlin load wise yet) what powder are you using, ( my personal preference is to use 3/4+ case cap types) so I have never used something like bullseye etc. Looks like AAC-5 works, 2400 works, thinking of 125 gr hornady xtp and I assume CCI small pistol primers. Thoughts? I have not bought a gun but i do research probable working loads first to see whether I can readily get components before taking the plunge. Nothing like no ammo for a new gun. bummer
 
#23 ·
I have the 1894 in 357 and an 1873 in 44 mag.
Neither kicks anywhere close to my SxS or 870.

Both hold 10 in the magazine.
For secondary defense I prefer the lethality of the 44. The 870 and extended magazine is the primary defense of choice.
 
#27 ·
So, I am in a quandary, short listing to a Winny 1892 Short, a Marlin Classic 1894 CST, a Marlin 1894, a rossi 92R laminate, and a Henry Big Boy all weather. I have had Winchesters and like the action. I think the 92 short has the short throw which is appealing. I really would like a laminate with a SS barrel, preferably 20". I also know the basic quality of the winny and marlin are the highest. I prefer stainless steel to the chrome in the all weather. I have a new scope to get used to so maybe i will just wait awhile.
 
#30 ·
I would buy the Ruger version of the Marlin 1894 in 44 mag.
IMO, this is the top of the engineering food chain for this type of action.
Ruger knows how to make guns, and make them well.

I own a Henry Frontier 22 with octagonal barrel.
The internals are very nicely done, and I have zero regrets.

However, the Henry 1894 is shunned by the cowboy action crowd.
It simply does not slick up well enough for that level of fast shooting.
Henry has no interest in working with cowboy gunsmiths for this, so the Henry is shunned.
 
#32 ·
Just another heads-up on the Rossi's, they tend to bulge brass. There may be several different reasons for it, but they tend to more than not. Now I'm not steering you away from the Rossi at all. I love my 24" octagonal barrel 357. Accurate, smooth, and honestly one good looking rifle, but it does bulge 357 magnum brass in more full power loads. There's been a few discussions about this on other threads. Not a huge deal unless you reload, which I do religiously. Just making sure you are aware.