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Ruger LCP or LCP II?
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If you are concerned about carrying the LCPii due to the SA trigger with no safety, you can use one of these: https://garrisongrip.com/micro-trigger-stop-holster/ I use one and with practice, I automatically eject it while drawing from holster.
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If you need to know when it’s empty by the slide locking back - get the LCP II. If you think better sights are beneficial in a close up encounter ( where you may have seconds to draw aim fire ), get the LCP II. My thoughts are either will give you a sense of security.
Bought my first Ruger pistol the other day. Good deal over at Cabela's. Bout the LCP 1, Gen 2. Part of me really wanted to buy the LCP 2, but it was $100 more.
So, where I'm at now.
Winchester White Box ammo gives it AIDs. Will not extract, will not feed, stovepipes.
Everything else has been fine.
Sights are fine, and a huge step up from my Kel-Tec P3AT. I painted the front sight white with nail polish. May change that to green or orange as it is less likely to wash out on a light background.
Trigger is a bit long, but not too bad.
After doing some dryfire practice, I sent my reduced sized IDPA target (well, it's the KRT-2 Target from KR-Training) all the way back to 20yrds (farthest my indoor range goes) and was able to put 6 out of 7 in the body without too much trouble. This gun may have been made for up close work, but it's capable of way more than that, yes, even with the LCP 1.
The only thing I asked them to do was to dry-fire the LCP 1 before buying. That's quite the PITA at a Cabela's. I've dryfired an LCP 2 before, the 1's trigger was plenty smooth for me. Wasn't sure I was willing to pay $100 for a slightly better trigger.
The only other issue I've had is that I've struggled to keep a firm 2-handed grip for follow-up shots. I'll own that it's all my lack of skill, but I did just get the Houge grip. Holy cow that thing feels good now. Honestly, if I can keep a 2-handed grip solid for follow up shots now (going shooting tomorrow), then I'm afraid some of my other guns are going to get carried less.
So, where I'm at now.
Winchester White Box ammo gives it AIDs. Will not extract, will not feed, stovepipes.
Everything else has been fine.
Sights are fine, and a huge step up from my Kel-Tec P3AT. I painted the front sight white with nail polish. May change that to green or orange as it is less likely to wash out on a light background.
Trigger is a bit long, but not too bad.
After doing some dryfire practice, I sent my reduced sized IDPA target (well, it's the KRT-2 Target from KR-Training) all the way back to 20yrds (farthest my indoor range goes) and was able to put 6 out of 7 in the body without too much trouble. This gun may have been made for up close work, but it's capable of way more than that, yes, even with the LCP 1.
The only thing I asked them to do was to dry-fire the LCP 1 before buying. That's quite the PITA at a Cabela's. I've dryfired an LCP 2 before, the 1's trigger was plenty smooth for me. Wasn't sure I was willing to pay $100 for a slightly better trigger.
The only other issue I've had is that I've struggled to keep a firm 2-handed grip for follow-up shots. I'll own that it's all my lack of skill, but I did just get the Houge grip. Holy cow that thing feels good now. Honestly, if I can keep a 2-handed grip solid for follow up shots now (going shooting tomorrow), then I'm afraid some of my other guns are going to get carried less.
The LCP gen 2 is a fine pistol. Lots of good info here on ways to carry, holsters and almost everything else.
Sorry you had to learn about WWB the hard way. Same happened to me. Hope you only bought one box!!.
Yeah, only one box, and I still have some left.
Bought the box to break in my wife's Shield EZ, but haven't gotten her out yet. Bought some Magtech FMJ and some Hornady XTPs for carry. Will have to look them up here before I get to the range tomorrow. Will save them for a different .380 if they don't work well.
Take a look at Precision One 90gr XTP for carry.Yeah, only one box, and I still have some left.
Bought some Magtech FMJ and some Hornady XTPs for carry. Will have to look them up here before I get to the range tomorrow. Will save them for a different .380 if they don't work well.
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It is my feeling that penetration is much more important than expansion.
I have a problem with a bullet that penetrated only about 1" more than the recommended FBI minimum and those figures were arrived at about 20yrs. ago. In the ensuing twenty yrs.., the average American wt. has increased 15 to 20#s, so I much prefer Lehigh's XP at 19" penetration. This is about 7"< than a .380 fmj in ballistic gel and I can only assume the difference is translated into tissue damage, which is good enough for me.
Lehigh XPs are 100% reliable in my LCP gen 2s, LCPIIs and LCP customs. You can look up STB's final, final .380 report on them in my prev. posts. He concludes in ref. to them "I think I have found my .380 carry round".
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It is true that, until recently, you could not get an LCP Custom, but Gallery of Guns has been selling it again: Item # 3755 The Custom also has a stainless guide rod.
OK. Went to the range like I said.
With the magtech FMJ and the Hornady American Gunner (XTP) I had no malfs at all. It was great. I feel much better about this gun knowing it just hates WWB.
Also, I was able to get hand-sized groups at 15yrds with 1-2sec splits. This is a surprisingly accurate gun. Of course, with a small barrel like that, any screw-up with the trigger will have large problems down range, but accuracy at range is totally possible.
So, when it comes to OP's question re: 1 vs 2, well, do you feel like paying for version 2, and do you need last shot bolt hold-open? If you feel like paying $100 for that, then go for it. I did add the houge to my LCP 1 and now I can make follow up shots more quickly. This wouldn't be necessary for the LCP 2 because of its added width.
Good luck with either!
With the magtech FMJ and the Hornady American Gunner (XTP) I had no malfs at all. It was great. I feel much better about this gun knowing it just hates WWB.
Also, I was able to get hand-sized groups at 15yrds with 1-2sec splits. This is a surprisingly accurate gun. Of course, with a small barrel like that, any screw-up with the trigger will have large problems down range, but accuracy at range is totally possible.
So, when it comes to OP's question re: 1 vs 2, well, do you feel like paying for version 2, and do you need last shot bolt hold-open? If you feel like paying $100 for that, then go for it. I did add the houge to my LCP 1 and now I can make follow up shots more quickly. This wouldn't be necessary for the LCP 2 because of its added width.
Good luck with either!
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That about "nails" it!
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I think this boils down to your 'safety' comfort level.
The LCP (original) is just SAFER to carry. That longer trigger pull means less chance of an accidental discharge. That matters to me.
See enough videos of people AD'ing their Glocks and you realize that little 'tab in the trigger' only does so much for safety. Which is why I'd carry a Springfield XD over a Glock; not because the Glock is 'bad' but the Springfield won't fire unless the grip safety AND trigger are depressed.
It is the same with the LCP and LCPII; if I wanted to shoot the gun a lot, the LCPII is the easier gun to shoot well. But I see this as a carry gun (carried a lot, shot relatively little, just to stay proficient.) And for a CARRY gun, safety takes priority. The LCP is safer. If it's going to ride around in my pocket, in a sticky holster, near the 'family jewels', it needs to be safe(r) more than it needs to have a 'nice' trigger pull.
I think you made the right choice for a CARRY gun. Thankfully this is America and people can have whichever version is right for THEM. I'm just happy that when Ruger came out with the LCPII, they opted to keep making the original LCP. Thank you Ruger!
The LCP (original) is just SAFER to carry. That longer trigger pull means less chance of an accidental discharge. That matters to me.
See enough videos of people AD'ing their Glocks and you realize that little 'tab in the trigger' only does so much for safety. Which is why I'd carry a Springfield XD over a Glock; not because the Glock is 'bad' but the Springfield won't fire unless the grip safety AND trigger are depressed.
It is the same with the LCP and LCPII; if I wanted to shoot the gun a lot, the LCPII is the easier gun to shoot well. But I see this as a carry gun (carried a lot, shot relatively little, just to stay proficient.) And for a CARRY gun, safety takes priority. The LCP is safer. If it's going to ride around in my pocket, in a sticky holster, near the 'family jewels', it needs to be safe(r) more than it needs to have a 'nice' trigger pull.
I think you made the right choice for a CARRY gun. Thankfully this is America and people can have whichever version is right for THEM. I'm just happy that when Ruger came out with the LCPII, they opted to keep making the original LCP. Thank you Ruger!
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Whatever is cheaper. It’s not a range gun. It’s just something that’s always in your shorts pocket in the summer, getting gross and sweaty and filled with dust and lint. It’s made to quickly shoot (probably point shoot) at someone a few feet or inches away.
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I got myself an LCP last month, and I opted for the LCP 10th Anniversary Edition.
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Why? Because I liked the Stainless Steel slide for corrosion-resistance, (it serves as my Summer Carry/BUG) it includes the improved trigger of the LCP Custom, has front & rear slide serrations like the LCP II, I like the more rounded-off edges, I feel safer pocket carrying with the heavier DA trigger, it weighs an ounce less than the LCP II, and the LCP simply has a better track-record having been on the market for over a decade.
It functions 100% reliably, even when using cheap/dirty ammo like Remington UMC.
Why? Because I liked the Stainless Steel slide for corrosion-resistance, (it serves as my Summer Carry/BUG) it includes the improved trigger of the LCP Custom, has front & rear slide serrations like the LCP II, I like the more rounded-off edges, I feel safer pocket carrying with the heavier DA trigger, it weighs an ounce less than the LCP II, and the LCP simply has a better track-record having been on the market for over a decade.
It functions 100% reliably, even when using cheap/dirty ammo like Remington UMC.
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I bought my LCP when they first came out. If memory serves me correctly Ruger recalled the pistols shortly after I bought it. My LCP has been a good gun for what its intended use is. Short range, deep carry, or back up gun. I have shot a lot and never has a failure of any kind. I do find it to be very snappy and somewhat uncomfortable to shoot. But I carry it and I know it will do its job if needed.
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