Don't worry about a scope that supposedly calibrates for you. Pick the scope you want, make it something good not just whatever cheap scope is available, and go with it. One should certainly now how and be able to adjust their scope themselves.

 

When you say sub sonic ammo what do you have in mind? If you are thinking the 'quiet' stuff that is real slow it might not even cycle if thinking just below 1100 fps that is no big deal to 50 yards.

 

No they are Rem subsonics and they shoot great in my 10/22... but it only has a red dot right now. Im about to order a scope and all for the .22lr are for supersonic ammo. And yes adjusting the scope is great but I dont want to be doing this every few sec and shots as going from 25yards to 100yards it would be best to have a scope with BDC or mil dots...
I really want the Bushnell AR22 but thats for super sonic ammo.. I will end up with it if I cant find something for sub sonic ammo.

 

I have a Nikon Prostaff rimfire 4X32. Absolutely love it. You can use the Nikon Spot On Software to select the ammo and range you are using and it gives you the set up to use. Here is a link to the spot on setup page.
http://spoton.nikonsportoptics.com/spoton/spoton.html#Index:10

 

+1!

 

Don't worry about a scope that supposedly calibrates for you. Pick the scope you want, make it something good not just whatever cheap scope is available, and go with it. One should certainly now how and be able to adjust their scope themselves.

Yes in deed, learn how to use your scope, there is no easy fix for a 22 lr that drops 7.5 inches at 100 zeroed at 25. Forget mill dots, They are for ranging distance to target, trying to use it for hold over will give you fits, just not it's intended use. Zero the scope for 25 yards, count the come up 1/4" clicks for 50 yards and record them, do the same for 100 yards. Everything starts with the turrets zeroed at a given distance. Big bore it's customary to use 100 yards.
You need to do it for the ammo you are using. Subsonic ammo is going to have more of a drop and not that great for over 75 yards. Forget the mill dot it's not what you think it is, like I said it's a scope used for acquiring distance to target and they are used at 10 power with a bit of math involved.
Whatever scope you get I would suggest one with parallax adjustable objective lens or a side focus.
At 125 yards with sub sonic ammo the wind is going to beat you up.

 

For the most part yes I do.. each dot and space come out to be a mili at 100 metter correct ?
But for a dumb ******* like me I just use them as hold over points at a giving power of the scope.. I never really used to to range on a giving target of known size..

 

I have had a mildot scope on a sub sonic .22lr before and got very good at it. But with many scopes now setup just for .22lr one can easy know hold over but only with the super sonic ammo. Was wanting to know if anyone has a BDC setup for sub sonics ?

 

I just ordered the above mentioned bushnell AR 22, I have yet to receive it so I cannot attest to the bullet drop reticle. I am not a fan of the whole idea because It clutters up the reticle in my opinion, but from pictures it seems as though this feature on the bushnell is less intrusive/cluttered than others. Unless you know your exact distance it's kind of useless.

What I would do if I were you and wanted to use the bullet drop reticle for subsonic is use the trial and error method. Sight the gun in at 50 yards then take some shots at 75-100 and see how much the drop is. Then try using the existing dots to compensate. Perhaps the dot normally used for 100 yards is your hold over for 75 yards. Or it might be between spots that gets you on mark. If your using the same ammo the results should be pretty
consistent.

In the end the bullet drop reticle is a sketch thing to me, works great on paper at the range with given distances. Not so great when your plinking in the back woods and can only estimate your distance. And if your gonna take your time with a range finder you might as well dial in your scope.

I'll have some reviews up on the bushnell AR 22 in a couple weeks, although I won't be using subsonic. I have a thread in the optics section if your interested.

 

I have a Nikon 3X9X40 BDC at 100 yards I would not blame the scope as you are on the outer edge of what the ammo can do at 100 yards.

 

Get a Nikon with BDC it works with any ammo you choose. Just download the app, plug in the ammo info and range and you're good to go. They dont make scopes for subsonic or supersonic rimfire, any one will work.

Remember, when shooting long distance a "supersonic" bullet will go "subsonic" causing the bullet to destabilize and reduce accuracy. If you want to shoot long distance you should use subsonic ammo. Anything between 950fps and 1100fps will work well as long as it isn't windy.

 

ShooterGuy, Got a few minutes? Take this quiz and see what you think. http://rugerforum.net/ammo-dump/98062-sonic-transition-theory-quiz.html

 

That was a good read bud. I cant argue with your logic and math.

 

Agree, interesting read

As a number of you have suggested, Nikon's Spot On Ballistic Program will give you a lot of information to increase your down range accuracy. As you can imagine atmospheric condition's really come into play with the light weight 22lr projectiles. I have used my PROSTAFF 3-9 Rimfire BDC 150 scope on my buddies suppressed 10/22 and found we had excellent noise suppression and accuracy to 50 yards, after that it the wind seemed to do whatever it wanted with the bullet.

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/PROSTAFF%20Rimfire/prostaffrimfire.jpg

 

Nikon makes the P-22 BDC reticle that comes with turrets for high velocity 22lr and normal velocity 22lr ammo.This may help your situation,should get you close to what you want.

 

DogTags is correct. Nikon also has the PROSTAFF 3-9 Rimfire BDC 150. This scope allows you to use Nikon's Spot On Ballistic Program to get the most accuracy from your rifle,scope and ammo. I have shot 12 inch steel crows with mine at 200 yards using this program. If you go into Spot On and can't find the ammo you use, drop me a note and I'll see if Nikon can get it added. I believe this Rimfire scope is on sale at this very moment too. Not sure how long the sale lasts, but check with your dealer and ask them if they are participating. $, Every little bit helps!

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/PROSTAFF%20Rimfire/22rimfire.jpg

 

I'd say setup targets at each range that you are shooting 25/50, 75, 100 and use the dots or hash marks as they naturally fall into place.

 

You are shooting 22 LR, correct?

Assuming that is true, keep in mind all 22 LR ammunition drops like a rock beyond 100 yards. Even at 50 yards, a light wind can move your POI inches off the point of aim. Beyond 50 yards, you better practice a lot if you want to hit the target in differing wind conditions.

All you need is a decent rimfire scope that is fixed focus with parallax set at 50 yards, as most fixed focus rimfire scopes are. Nikon, Weaver, Leupold and most other quality scope manufacturers all have scopes intended for shooting 22 LR rifles.

That being said, most of the above scopes, can be bought with a variety of reticle options.

Finally, I just set targets up at different known distances (50, 75 and 100 yards). Then I sight in at 50 yards. Then I sight in again at 75 yards, counting the number of elevation and windage clicks needed to get back on target. Next I sight in again at 100 yards, once again counting clicks. Finally, counting clicks again, I reset the scope back to 50 yards.

I write down the numbers as I go and memorize them. With a fixed focus scope, you need to practice estimating distances. With an AO adjustable scope, I can adjust focus, read the distance to the target and know how many clicks I need to get back on target. Of course this test needs to be repeated if you change ammo.