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What is the point of a trigger safety?

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This may be a really noob question but what is the point of a trigger safety? I know exactly what it is for and how it works buy I currently don't have the trigger safety installed on my lcp max due to other issue I am dealing with. It shot fine without it and I don't see how having the safety installed would help decrease the trigger being pulled back on accident. The actual safety is not connected to anything other than the trigger so not sure how it would stop the trigger from being pulled. How does it stop the trigger from being pulled of installed because both have to be pulled simultaneously? Again, it's not connected to anything how does that actually help? Sorry if I repeat myself.
 
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AKJ86, Trigger safeties like what you would find in a Glock are primarily to prevent the gun from discharging, if it is dropped. The way the mechanism is designed, the pistol will not fire unless the trigger is pulled. It must work pretty good because Glocks pass the Federally mandated Drop Test requirements.
 
#5 ·
The trigger safety makes it more difficult for the trigger to be activated by something less than a determined press from the user's finger. While the safety isn't completely infallible or even logical because something that may activate the trigger may also activate the safety. However, many of the unintentional activations can occur from something snagging the edge of the trigger and activating it (i.e. during reholstering), so the safety prevents the gun from firing.

I don't know exactly how your LCP Max trigger safety operates, but the trigger safeties on my RAPs prevent the triggers from moving at all until the safeties are fully depressed...I don't have my MAX9 handy to check. My Glock 34 trigger with the safety works the same way.

Regardless, it's a very serious thing to remove the safety. Hopefully you are not carrying the firearm in that configuration, as it's in a VERY UNSAFE CONDITION.

Get your trigger fixed to work the way it's intended, no matter if it makes sense to you or any other internet naysayers...

Aqualung
 
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I have also heard that it is part of the drop safety mechanisms.

@Aqualung's #5 post advice to not run it without getting the safety-blade fixed is probably a good idea Even if just from a CYA possible legal problem if you have to use it for SD or you get involved with an ND-induced accident ("members of the jury, the defendant purposely made this gun unsafe..,").
 
#9 ·
Maybe I should have been more clear. My trigger is actually and aftermarket trigger. It is the siggard short stroke from Galloway. It is currently not installed due to the cerakote making it the hole on one side tighter and now my pin will not slide all the way through. I am working on that. That being said, I still don't see how the trigger safety prevents the trigger from being pulled all the way unless it is also pressed. I say that because it is simply only fixed to the trigger. If the trigger can move anyways what use is the safety? I don't think the aftermarket trigger is the issue. Even the stock trigger safety is only held in with a spring and sliding pin. I will have dry fire on my ec9s to see
 
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Maybe I should have been more clear. My trigger is actually and aftermarket trigger. It is the siggard short stroke from Galloway. It is currently not installed due to the cerakote making it the hole on one side tighter and now my pin will not slide all the way through. I am working on that. That being said, I still don't see how the trigger safety prevents the trigger from being pulled all the way unless it is also pressed. I say that because it is simply only fixed to the trigger. If the trigger can move anyways what use is the safety? I don't think the aftermarket trigger is the issue. Even the stock trigger safety is only held in with a spring and sliding pin. I will have dry fire on my ec9s to see
The trigger safety does not prevent the trigger from being pulled.

It does ensure the gun only fires when the trigger is pulled.

It's a small but important distinction. Outside a manual safety, nothing but a good holster and appropriate gun handling will prevent you from inadvertently pulling the trigger.
 
#11 ·
Not really a newb question but that's how we learn if we have questions -- ask. Anyone trying to ridicule you for asking should be ostracized by the group. Anyway newb it's easier to show it to you than try to explain it to you. The trigger safety requires that the safety be depressed along with the trigger. It blocks the trigger from moving to the rear to the fire position.

I don't like mechanical safety's in general but I can live with passive safety's. Especially if it's difficult to operate the gun while not depressing the safety. Case in point is the palm safety on my 1911 and XDs. Most trigger safety's are that way too. I don't think it makes a gun unsafe without it but it removes a slight margin of safety that would otherwise be there.
 
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#12 ·
So I found a 14 year old video that answered the question. When the trigger safety is installed (the safety blade in the middle of the trigger), it prevents the trigger from engaging all the way unless it is also pulled. As someone stated above it does not prevent the trigger from being pulled but that is only half true it seems. The trigger can still be pulled but cannot be pulled far enough to engage the firing pin/firing in general. This is because the trigger safety/safety blade that sits in the middle of the trigger, when installed, prevents the trigger from being pulled back far enough unless also pulled and does so by butting up against the inside of the grip/handle. When the safety blade is pulled at the same time (before the trigger is pulled), it becomes hidden within the trigger and allows a full pull of the trigger because it hidden and cannot but up against the inside of the grip. This would explain why I was still able to pull the trigger without the safety blade installed. I feel like this is really a noob answer but really am more surprised no one was able to tell me this clearly and exactly right off the bat. Lol. I hope this post helps others with this.
 
#13 ·
Forum 101, this you need to know.
One of the problems on a forum besides getting clear, concise and accurate information describing a problem an explanation has to come in a form that you can understand. I don't know what you know and what you don't know and what you understand. As I type I can't see your face and get feedback on whether you understand and are following what I'm saying so I can't adjust what I'm trying to explain accordingly.

If you read my post carefully, read it several times. I go off in other directions but the meat of my post describes what you think you understand and tried to describe. You may also notice I said it would be easier to show you and I'm guessing the video showed you how it worked. Something about a picture being worth a thousand words, not sure how many words a video may be the point is the same.
 
#14 ·
I don't care for the feel, and I don't trust the tiny rivet it pivots on. I have not and will not buy a pistol that has it.
 
#17 ·
I actually liked the trigger safety on the one striker I ever owned. I never noticed it. AND I train with my dogs often and other peoples dogs seldom. Working with dogs, if you are as "unorthodox" and a bad "spoiler" as I have been called adds a dimension to firearms safety that cannot be over stated in my mind. I no longer use or own strikers.