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Which Wolff spring kit should I buy?

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#1 ·
I would like to add a Wolff reduced spring kit to my new Ruger NM Vaquero. I have had good luck with these kits in my Colt SAAs in the past. I see I can buy a kit with a 17 lb hammer spring but I really don't know what to exspect between the 30 & 40 oz. trigger springs besides 10 Oz haha.
Which one would you buy with the intent to use the revolver for fast draw and shooting wax bullets? Thanks for your help.

Also I would love to find a 45 acp cylinder for this rig if you have any leads on finding one.
 
#2 ·
For using it as a wax bullet toy, a 17# hammer spring and 30 oz trigger spring sounds fine. For anything else I'd go with an 18 or 19 pound hammer spring and the 40 oz trigger spring. I have used the 30 oz spring in a few of my Ruger S/As, but they are a bit light.
 
#4 ·
Thank you for the replies. I know exactly what you mean about it can be to light to be reliable for 100 % ignition . Once I put a spring kit an a Colt SAA clone and had that happen. Of course they only offer a flat spring or wire spring when it comes to the trigger so having to pick between 30 and 40 oz had we wondering so I figured better ask for help rather than just take a guess without any real information regarding the trigger spring.
Sounds like the 19Lbs with the 40 Oz is the ticket for me as even though I plan on shooting wax bullets once I find a 45 acp cylinder I will be throwing some lead down range too.
Thanks again everyone.
 
#13 ·
There are two different sets of springs for Ruger SA revolvers. The first is for "SINGLE ACTION SERIES" revolvers and the other is for "SMALL FRAME (XR-3) SINGLE ACTION" revolvers. I was told by Wolff that the Ruger Vaquero uses the "SMALL FRAME (XR-3) SINGLE ACTION" set of springs. The web page states that the factory standard hammer spring is 17 pounds for the Vaquero while the larger frame revolvers have a 23 pound hammer spring. The Shooters Pak spring set for the Vaquero has a 14 pound hammer spring (3 pounds weaker than factory) and a 30 oz or 40 oz trigger spring.

Just make sure you order the correct set for your Vaquero. The "SINGLE ACTION SERIES" springs will not fit your Vaquero (per Wolff).
 
#15 ·
Thanks again guys for the help that you gave me then as I still use it.
It's funny but every time I buy another Vaquero I search spring kits and lower hammers and I find this thread.
I put the super blackhawk hammer in the guns that I use for fast draw.
I just picked up an early (pre NM) short barrel stainless steel Vaquero Sherriff. Time for another hammer and light springs!
No pic yet but heres others of mine.
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#17 ·
There's a reason why Ruger uses a 23 lb hammer spring and it's called "lock time". Lock time is the time it takes, after the sear releases, for the hammer to move forward and strike the transfer bar and in turn, strike the firing pin. During the long lock time, it allows your hand to move a considerable amount .... meaning marksmanship is notably worse with a lighter hammer spring and longer lock time. SA revolvers have the longest lock time of any type of gun so rather than install a reduced power hammer spring, I do a "real" action job. When I finish, trigger pull is usually 2.5 lbs with virtually no creep, yet it still uses the factory hammer spring. The trigger spring doesn't affect lock time so you can replace it and get a trigger pull even lower than 2.5 lbs.

Seems many people are hung up on a light trigger pull. I think it's safe to say that most people prefer a light pull to a heavy pull, but In all honesty, a light trigger from using reduced power springs does feel better, however it seldom improves accuracy and in fact it usually makes it worse because of the increased lock time. Trigger creep is another major issue. Creep is the feeling of sear movement before the sear releases. To me, there's nothing worse for marksmanship than feeling like the gun is going to go off 2 or 3 times before it actually does. Oddly enough, when you use reduced power hammer springs, you tend to feel the creep more than with the factory trigger pull. Why? The sear notch in the hammer is factory cut at a slight angle. If you lay the gun down on a bench and closely observe the hammer .... as you squeeze the trigger, the hammer will cam back slightly. This has a very significant impact on both trigger pull weight and creep. If you square up the hammer's sear notch, the sear will release without camming the hammer back, which makes a vast improvement .

To do this task, you need a trigger/hammer jig so I use the best one possible .... the gun itself. Below is a picture of a perfect jig. The trigger pivot pin is installed backwards so it's notch will lock into the loading gate spring to secure it. The hammer pivot pin uses a grip screw to hold it secure. I didn't show the makeshift hammer spring but it is a rubber band connected to the hammer spur and the looped over the barrel at the junction of the frame.

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So here's the drill ... push the bottom of the trigger forward then cock the hammer. Look very closely at the hammer spur as you squeeze the trigger. The objective is to reshape the sear notch so the hammer neither moves backwards or forward as the trigger is squeezed. Once the sear is at the proper angle, you can polish it for an even better feel. I use a muslin buffing wheel and 500 grit compound to polish both the sear notch and the trigger extension. You won't believe the difference plus it doesn't have any ill affect on lock time. Infinitely better than just using reduced power springs.
 
#18 ·
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Changing springs as to achieve a "trigger job" is like changing your tire size to change your gear ratio.
It's cheap, it's easy, but your probably gonna lose something in the process. :unsure: